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[NIgt3]

sidicks said:

When does PDK-S override the drivers gear decisions?

When it's In the D position

[sidicks]

NIgt3 said:

When it's In the D position

So in that case, don't put it in the D position...

[mollytherocker]

sidicks said:

When does PDK-S override the drivers gear decisions?

Within parameters set by Porsche engineers. Mainly to protect the engine. And thats perfectly reasonable. Thats not my point.

[sidicks]

mollytherocker said:

Within parameters set by Porsche engineers. Mainly to protect the engine. And thats perfectly reasonable. Thats not my point.

Exactly - so good drivers will never be impacted by this protection mechanism and hence the PDK-S will never change gear when the driver does not want it to.

Hence why your analogy is fundamentally flawed.

[NIgt3]

sidicks said:

So in that case, don't put it in the D position...

But that's my point you can and it will change gear, that's not possible in a manual that's why a pdk gearbox is classified as an automatic!!

[sidicks]

NIgt3 said:

But that's my point you can and it will change gear, that's not possible in a manual that's why a pdk gearbox is classified as an automatic!!

[mollytherocker]

sidicks said:

mollytherocker said:

Within parameters set by Porsche engineers. Mainly to protect the engine. And thats perfectly reasonable. Thats not my point.

Exactly - so good drivers will never be impacted by this protection mechanism and hence the PDK-S will never change gear when the driver does not want it to.

Hence why your analogy is fundamentally flawed.

These discussions are impossible. You don't know what I am talking about. I know what you are saying but We are talking about different things.

We need to go out for a beer!

[NIgt3]

[sidicks]

mollytherocker said:

These discussions are impossible. You don't know what I am talking about.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about - previously you claimed:

mollytherocker said:

Its as manual as sitting in the passenger seat and tapping the driver on the shoulder when you want him to change gear. And he only changes if he sees fit.

You've now agreed that in manual mode, PDK-S will not change gear without you choosing to do so, except in extreme circumstances to protect the engine,

Which directly contradicts your earlier claim.

[mollytherocker]

sidicks said:

mollytherocker said:

These discussions are impossible. You don't know what I am talking about.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about - previously you claimed:

mollytherocker said:

Its as manual as sitting in the passenger seat and tapping the driver on the shoulder when you want him to change gear. And he only changes if he sees fit.

You've now agreed that in manual mode, PDK-S will not change gear without you choosing to do so, except in extreme circumstances to protect the engine,

Which directly contradicts your earlier claim.

As I have already said, we are talking about two different things. Thats why this discussion is failing. I agree with your above statement and it makes no difference.

[sidicks]

mollytherocker said:

As I have already said, we are talking about two different things. Thats why this discussion is failing. I agree with your above statement and it makes no difference.

But you do accept that your analogy is fundamentally flawed?

[mollytherocker]

sidicks said:

mollytherocker said:

As I have already said, we are talking about two different things. Thats why this discussion is failing. I agree with your above statement and it makes no difference.

But you do accept that your analogy is fundamentally flawed?

Absolutely not.

[sidicks]

mollytherocker said:

Absolutely not.

I can only deduce that you are not the brightest individual in that case, if you can't see the obvious contradiction.

[mollytherocker]

sidicks said:

mollytherocker said:

Absolutely not.

I can only deduce that you are not the brightest individual in that case, if you can't see the obvious contradiction.

Explain the contradiction please.

[Ryanodine]

mollytherocker said:

Explain the contradiction please.

It's beneath him Molly, you're a thicko!!!!

If you put a pdks car into first gear in manual mode and accelerate without changing gear, what happens when you hit the rev limiter?

[mollytherocker]

Ryanodine said:

It's beneath him Molly, you're a thicko!!!!

If you put a pdks car into first gear in manual mode and accelerate without changing gear, what happens when you hit the rev limiter?

I will tell you. It will change gear in the fastest way possible with millimetric timing, probably down to a single revolution.

Pulling the paddle and therefore pressing the digital button will be less efficient and slower. It is therefore pointless.

Computers are faster.

[isaldiri]

mollytherocker said:

sidicks said:

mollytherocker said:

Absolutely not.

I can only deduce that you are not the brightest individual in that case, if you can't see the obvious contradiction.

Explain the contradiction please.

Can of worms this one. I do however find it odd some believe that the pdk -s is anything different from a highly refined and tweaked pdk. Put a pdk in manual, remove the kickdown and 1st gear creep and that's essentially how the pdk-s behaves as far as i understand albeit with faster shift speeds. Still at essence it remains an auto box (unless dual clutch boxes are now considered manuals...) running in manual mode and really just a further development of a tiptronic box set in manual mode.

[Nurburgsingh]

sidicks said:

When does PDK-S override the drivers gear decisions?

when you're at 100mph in 3rd and pull the down paddle twice?

[sidicks]

mollytherocker said:

I will tell you. It will change gear in the fastest way possible .

No, once again you are wrong - in manual mode it will continue to bounce off the rev limiter.

[sidicks]

Nurburgsingh said:

when you're at 100mph in 3rd and pull the down paddle twice?

To prevent you from doing a "money shift", which seems like a good thing, doesn't it.

How many 'good' drivers of manual GT3s try and engage first gear at 100mph??

Edited by sidicks on Sunday 8th June 08:40