Porsche 968 - childhood dream of becoming a racing driver
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I gave the fabricator a visit this morning to see how he was getting on welding in the roll cage and the sunroof in the 968 hoping to see a great step forward! Sadly the progress is a bit slow. So I told him to get a hurry on and I would be back next Saturday to check on progress.
In the meantime here are a few more pics of the car, sitting in the fabricator workshop, now looking a bit dusty and a bit sorry for itself, with a un-constructed roll cage in the boot!
More photos on the blog as usual http://matracing.blogspot.co.uk/
In the meantime here are a few more pics of the car, sitting in the fabricator workshop, now looking a bit dusty and a bit sorry for itself, with a un-constructed roll cage in the boot!
More photos on the blog as usual http://matracing.blogspot.co.uk/
If you are interested I have a 2009 Corbeau Revolution with Corbeau aluminium mounting brackets that I took out of my EMC prepared 968 race car. Google for images - current range starts at 500 pounds without brackets. Has done season only (10 races) and been sat in my office since. Your for 100 pounds but you pay and arrange carriage. I can email me you photos if you PM me.
Cheers
Mark
Cheers
Mark
drmark said:
If you are interested I have a 2009 Corbeau Revolution with Corbeau aluminium mounting brackets that I took out of my EMC prepared 968 race car. Google for images - current range starts at 500 pounds without brackets. Has done season only (10 races) and been sat in my office since. Your for 100 pounds but you pay and arrange carriage. I can email me you photos if you PM me.
Cheers
Mark
Ahhh so frustrating! I ordered my seat just 1-week ago! But thank you for the offer. Most appreciatedCheers
Mark
Its taken a bit longer than I had expected, but the roll-cage is finally installed into the 968. Its a custom-cages FIA race approved designed for the 968.
The windscreen had to come out during the installation and needs replacing. The sunroof was also welded in and kick-plate installed in the drivers footwell. Next job is installing the racing seat and harness that has now arrived.
More photos on the blog as always! http://matracing.blogspot.co.uk/
The windscreen had to come out during the installation and needs replacing. The sunroof was also welded in and kick-plate installed in the drivers footwell. Next job is installing the racing seat and harness that has now arrived.
More photos on the blog as always! http://matracing.blogspot.co.uk/
Nurburgsingh said:
Bloody hell I hope you're bendy! That cage looks more of a PITA to get past than my SD.
Not sure I like the proximity of the down bar to the steering wheel either, unless it's the camera angles playing tricks...
+1Not sure I like the proximity of the down bar to the steering wheel either, unless it's the camera angles playing tricks...
Looks very tricky to get into that because of the door bars, maybe its been designed to keep people in or out! Also doubt the door bars will give great side impact protection due to the height. IIRC the front bar usually follows the a post more closely too.
boy said:Nurburgsingh said:
Bloody hell I hope you're bendy! That cage looks more of a PITA to get past than my SD.
Not sure I like the proximity of the down bar to the steering wheel either, unless it's the camera angles playing tricks...
+1Not sure I like the proximity of the down bar to the steering wheel either, unless it's the camera angles playing tricks...
Looks very tricky to get into that because of the door bars, maybe its been designed to keep people in or out! Also doubt the door bars will give great side impact protection due to the height. IIRC the front bar usually follows the a post more closely too.
I wonder what the scrute will say?
Just checked my 2012 copy of the blue book and section K 1.3.5 b for door bars says specifically that door bars should be as high as possible but not higher than half the total door aperture hight measured from the base. This cage look as though it doesn't meet this criteria!
Think the OP needs to study the blue book section K very closely or he'll get black balled at scrutineering.
Think the OP needs to study the blue book section K very closely or he'll get black balled at scrutineering.
Edited by boy on Sunday 3rd June 17:36
boy on Sunday 3rd June 17:36Regulations K1.3.1 and K1.3.5 drawing no. 62 for the A post reinforcement. I hadnt looked in the blue book for compliance, but Id expect a scrutineer to have something to say about the restricted access.
Better to get a scrute involved now, than have it rejected after the build has been completed, or when youre in the paddock waiting to race.
Better to get a scrute involved now, than have it rejected after the build has been completed, or when youre in the paddock waiting to race.
From one of the pics it looks like the cage has two diagonal members in the vertical plane and two across the rear legs. If I interperate the blue book correctly I think it says you can have one or the other not both. Section K drawing 37 page 179.
As has been said the OP needs to get this checked before going any further, be a shame to turn up and have the car bombed out for something like this.
As has been said the OP needs to get this checked before going any further, be a shame to turn up and have the car bombed out for something like this.
Some interesting comments - thanks for the feedback. I certainly don't want to rock-up at my first race and not be allowed to race.
Here are a few more photos
The cage is a 968 cage from custom cages and is MSA fully compliant for circuit racing, which now includes the extra A-post reinforcement - hence why it looks rather the complex. Here is a diagram from custom cages
I've tried getting in and out and its not too bad - certainly not quite as easy as the race boxster, but its not bad. I think the angle of the photographs is making it a bit harder than it is, and the doors open very wide.
If you look at photo 4 above, you can see that the cross bar is lower than the window line - so its 1/3 way up the door opening. Not that high.
The welder has done many MSA compliant cages before, so I trust he knows what he is doing. However, guess there is no harm in checking. Anyone have any tips on who/how i could get it checked? I'm a complete novice!
Here are a few more photos
The cage is a 968 cage from custom cages and is MSA fully compliant for circuit racing, which now includes the extra A-post reinforcement - hence why it looks rather the complex. Here is a diagram from custom cages
I've tried getting in and out and its not too bad - certainly not quite as easy as the race boxster, but its not bad. I think the angle of the photographs is making it a bit harder than it is, and the doors open very wide.
If you look at photo 4 above, you can see that the cross bar is lower than the window line - so its 1/3 way up the door opening. Not that high.
The welder has done many MSA compliant cages before, so I trust he knows what he is doing. However, guess there is no harm in checking. Anyone have any tips on who/how i could get it checked? I'm a complete novice!
Interpreting the blue book required a slide rule and a working knowledge of astrology...
Id also be surprised if the front triangulations are legal, but Im far from familiar with this championship - although Im going to sit down and read up on it.
Im surprised that such a labour intensive cage had been used on a body that doesnt appear to have been 'prepared' in the sense of the word that I would use. It seems like a false economy to spend over a certain amount without committing the rest for dipping and seam welding (usually illegal but always done).
Im not particularly familiar with RPM, but I suspect that EMC may have been a better bet...
Id also be surprised if the front triangulations are legal, but Im far from familiar with this championship - although Im going to sit down and read up on it.
Im surprised that such a labour intensive cage had been used on a body that doesnt appear to have been 'prepared' in the sense of the word that I would use. It seems like a false economy to spend over a certain amount without committing the rest for dipping and seam welding (usually illegal but always done).
Im not particularly familiar with RPM, but I suspect that EMC may have been a better bet...
GC8 said:
Interpreting the blue book required a slide rule and a working knowledge of astrology...
Id also be surprised if the front triangulations are legal, but Im far from familiar with this championship - although Im going to sit down and read up on it.
Im surprised that such a labour intensive cage had been used on a body that doesnt appear to have been 'prepared' in the sense of the word that I would use. It seems like a false economy to spend over a certain amount without committing the rest for dipping and seam welding (usually illegal but always done).
Im not particularly familiar with RPM, but I suspect that EMC may have been a better bet...
Id also be surprised if the front triangulations are legal, but Im far from familiar with this championship - although Im going to sit down and read up on it.
Im surprised that such a labour intensive cage had been used on a body that doesnt appear to have been 'prepared' in the sense of the word that I would use. It seems like a false economy to spend over a certain amount without committing the rest for dipping and seam welding (usually illegal but always done).
Im not particularly familiar with RPM, but I suspect that EMC may have been a better bet...
GC it has been mentioned before when the OP first posted that he should speak with EMC have the shell dipped etc. I agree strip to a bare shell, dip to remove seam sealer, add extra spots to stiffen up and then cage is the way to go. Seems very odd putting a super trick cage in without doing this. From the pics it looks like some of the sund deadening is still there too, not only is this extra weight but when it burns it gives off horrid acrid fumes.
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