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Stig

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11,818 posts

286 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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So say I had about 35k burning a hole in my pocket and for some unexplainable reason I decided that I fancied a 993 or early 996 - what would you lot recommend?

I prefer the wide body cars, so that means a C2S/C4S 993 I suppose, but must be manual. That said, to my eye, the 996 is leagues ahead on styling (especially the interior) but I fear that my budget may be a bit too lean to afford one.

Don't bother to recommend 930/964 as I just can't get to grips with the styling.

So Dom, 964RS isn't an option

verysideways

10,240 posts

274 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Sure you can afford an early right hook 996 for 35k, no problem, but if you invested the same 35k in a widebody 993 you'd lose less of it over the next few years.

The 996 will keep dropping...

I've had a 993 C4S and have to say that it was absolutely awesome. I miss it every day.

That's why i just bought another 993 (C2 this time).

VS

Bluesatin

3,114 posts

274 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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selling the ultima then?

james_j

3,996 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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There's a C2S (i.e. widebody) here www.911virgin.com/stock.htm

It's a bit over your budget though at just under £39k, but it has the C2S optional hollow spoke wheels and air con and sports seats.

AC79xxx

62,260 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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james_j said:
There's a C2S (i.e. widebody) here www.911virgin.com/stock.htm

It's a bit over your budget though at just under £39k, but it has the C2S optional hollow spoke wheels and air con and sports seats.


It's up for £36.5k

kamal996

4,227 posts

246 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Zenith with Savannah. The hassle I got with Ocean with Savannah was bad enough!

toppstuff

13,698 posts

249 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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I'd go with a 993.

Had a 993 C2. Switched to a 996 C4.

Big mistake. The 996 is lovely but , to be honest, it was just too quiet and competant.

The 993 had much more character.

Unless my money will run to a GT3 or a 997 ( unlikely, as I can always think of other things to spend it on) , then I will be goign back to a 993.

Probably look to pick up a 993 over the winter.

james_j

3,996 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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AC79xxx said:

james_j said:
There's a C2S (i.e. widebody) here <a href="http://www.911virgin.com/stock.htm">www.911virgin.com/stock.htm</a>

It's a bit over your budget though at just under £39k, but it has the C2S optional hollow spoke wheels and air con and sports seats.



It's up for £36.5k


See the website: The (just under) £39k covers sending the car away to a specialist for a service, looking for faults that need correcting. Faults then corrected; 3 month or 3,000 miles warranty (whichever comes first). This covers wear and tear items aswell as breaking.

The lower price you saw is for the car exactly as it stands, no guarantee, no pre-sales service, nothing.

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

254 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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james_j said:
The lower price you saw is for the car exactly as it stands, no guarantee, no pre-sales service, nothing.

My understanding of car sales laws was that as a minimum the vehicle must be safe, durable and roadworthy, and defects must be pointed out by the seller. Also, from the DTI website:

"Under sale of goods legislation consumers are entitled to expect that any goods they buy are of satisfactory quality. That is, that the goods meet the standard that a reasonable person would regard as satisfactory taking into account the way they are described, their price, and any other relevant circumstances, such as the fact that they are second-hand or used."

This isn't the same as a full warranty, but provides some basic protection for someone paying the "millenium bug" price. Frankly I think you'd be mad to pay the higher price unless the car you were buying needed work/servicing carrying out.

bennno

11,835 posts

271 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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A few Porsche main dealers have 996's at 38k ish which probably means 35k ish with no part ex.

Some specialists do brisk trade also, including Northway whom get a lot of earlier or higher mileage 996's from aFN down the road:

www.northwayporsche.co.uk

The 993 is a lovely car, but if you drive it back to back with a 996, then to my mind the 996 feels much quicker and rewarding to drive fast as well as being that bit more modern.

I think a 'cheap' 996 is going to do well residually compared to an 'expensive' 993.

Bennno

AC79xxx

62,260 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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james_j said:

AC79xxx said:


james_j said:
There's a C2S (i.e. widebody) here <a href="http://www.911virgin.com/stock.htm"><a href="http://www.911virgin.com/stock.htm">www.911virgin.com/stock.htm</a></a>

It's a bit over your budget though at just under £39k, but it has the C2S optional hollow spoke wheels and air con and sports seats.




It's up for £36.5k



See the website: The (just under) £39k covers sending the car away to a specialist for a service, looking for faults that need correcting. Faults then corrected; 3 month or 3,000 miles warranty (whichever comes first). This covers wear and tear items aswell as breaking.

The lower price you saw is for the car exactly as it stands, no guarantee, no pre-sales service, nothing.


I'd still go for the lower price and stick £2.5k in my back pocket.

I'd doubt that car needs too much fettling.

steve-p

1,448 posts

284 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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Witchfinder said:

My understanding of car sales laws was that ... and defects must be pointed out by the seller.


I think you must have dreamt that one!

Stig

Original Poster:

11,818 posts

286 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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bennno said:


I think a 'cheap' 996 is going to do well residually compared to an 'expensive' 993.

Bennno


Fair point Bennno. Needless to say, a test drive of both (several variants if poss.) is the best place to start I reckon.

Thanks for the advice chaps

domster

8,431 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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964R... I'll get me coat

Never had you down as a pork boy, CJ

ian_dorrian

110 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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Dear Stig,

Got a 993 C4S and live down the road in Whitchurch Hill.

Email me off line if you want to have a go to help you make your mind up.

Stig

Original Poster:

11,818 posts

286 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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ian_dorrian said:
Dear Stig,

Got a 993 C4S and live down the road in Whitchurch Hill.

Email me off line if you want to have a go to help you make your mind up.



Thanks for the kind offer Ian - I may just do that.

PS. Dom - I'm getting old

Witchfinder

6,250 posts

254 months

Friday 30th July 2004
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steve-p said:
I think you must have dreamt that one!

Not according to the OFT website.

www.oft.gov.uk/Consumer/Your+Rights+When+Shopping/cars+used+before+you+buy.htm

"the car must be free from defects, except those that
were pointed out to you by the seller (there will be
normal wear and tear when a car is used), and those
which should have been uncovered by an inspection
(but only if you inspected the car, or if someone did it for you)."

domster

8,431 posts

272 months

Friday 30th July 2004
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I think that is the point. Henry will happily point out all the things the car needs and then let you take it non-prepared at a non-prepared 'millenium bug' price.

If it needs some tidying up or a service, then you pay the higher 'retail' price.

Maybe the Rt Hon Henners will clarify, but it seems to save him preparation time and money and this leads to savings for some of his customers. You pays your money etc.