'Tis the season to be...miserable.
'Tis the season to be...miserable.
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nodz

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2 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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It's beginning to dawn on me that I'm going to have to sell my dream/perfect spec 993 only a few months (and a few miles) after I bought her.

As mentioned in another thread, I've moved house and, due to grounding, can't get the car into the drive or garage (without putting down & picking up a huge, thick piece of chipboard that does nothing for my hernias!) So it's going to have to be left on the road which isn't ideal for protection from the elements or the local yobs (although it's in the garage now while I recover from yet another hernia op!).

Due to unforseen circumstances it's also going to become in January my main vehicle for commuting rather than the twice a week garage queen I'd intended. And this will mean a sharp hike in my insurance (currently a 5k limited mileage, in-garage policy).

And the salt issue, being discussed elsewhere, is really ramming home the impracticalities of using the 993 on a daily basis in the winter. I can't hose it down every day and I'm sure my neighbours won't be happy with the icy road/pavement that i create if I tried.

I know I'll be back to Porsche (perhaps when I reach the top of a long waiting list for the garages opposite my house) - and I've loved having the car even for such a short time - but for now I can see no way out but to sell.

And it's not a great time to be doing that either.

Not expecting any answers - just wanted to get it off my chest.

(And if anyone wants an immaculate, completely sorted RH Drive, manual, Midnight Blue, 1996 993 C4 Varioram that's done 69k miles with FSH and marble leather, RS clutch/flywheel, MP3 player, upgraded lights, hardback seats etc just PM me. Steve Bull inspected it just 300 miles ago and said it was in fantastic nick. Thinking about putting it up in January at £25,999).

Edited by nodz on Tuesday 19th December 20:10

nodz17

310 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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....ah, found my old login details.

nel

4,830 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Or you could always just hang on to it and use it for commuting rather than as a garage queen. At least you'll arrive at work with a smile on your face!

I have a steeply sloped drive and the car needs some wooden ramps to help to ease it into the garage without grounding out front and back. I made my ramps out of fairly thin (about 5 mm) plywood with several longitudinal, vertical supporting fins in the same material - nailed and glued. They're still fine 2.5 years later and they're very light, so no problem to handle. Maybe a similar appraoch would ease your problem, as big sheets of chipboard are damned heavy relative to their absolute strength.

If you can't keep the car then you have my commiserations...

robmug

1,047 posts

293 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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I feel for you. But don't worry about using it as a daily driver. 911s, especially of 964/993 vintage are extremely hardy. I've covered 60,000 miles in 3 years in mine, still sits outside. I treat it very well, polish regularly, service on schedule and always attend to any jobs that arise. Makes the perfect daily driver, and you'll soon be feeling sorry for those poor folk who put theirs away and only use them on sunny weekends!

roygarth

2,674 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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I agree with Rob, use it as a daily driver, that's what it was designed for. Salt won't harm it - lot's of salt in Germany!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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nodz said:
due to grounding, can't get the car into the drive or garage (without putting down & picking up a huge, thick piece of chipboard that does nothing for my hernias!)


same with me, except for the hernias

can't you leave it in place or approach the crossover from an angle?

nodz17

310 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Getting it into the drive/garage really is a no-no but thanks for the ideas.

It's great to hear people explaining how they leave their cars out and use them as daily drivers - but this contrasts sharply with the doom-mongers on other threads talking about vandals, salt, insurance, rain etc.

Perhaps I'm worrying too much about the views of people who, quite understandably, want to keep their cars in concourse condition all year round. When infact I don't need the car to look absolutely mint every morning (just not keyed by one of my local yobbos - although I live in a pretty good area really).

Is a 993 more susceptible to salt damage than any other of the millions of cars driven in winter? OR is it just because it's a rare supercar that people are worried.

What I'm trying to say is, if i haven't got "concourse/keep the car for 20 years" expectations, am I overreacting? I really only bought the car to drive it! And I would probably have sold it in a couple of years and got something else anyway(a Porsche obviously). The salt won't have killed it already will it?

Feeling a bit more positive.....thanks guys.

mikeg996

875 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Don't forget, the internet blows everything out of proportion. From reading the 996 stories on here, you'd think the car was made out of soggy balsa wood.

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

265 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Good Lord! it's a Porsche built in Germany not a Ferrari or a TVR. These cars thrive on regular and hard use. Mine lives on my driveway and gets driven regularly it's in tip top condition throughout.

Yep, it would be nice to garage it, but I bought mine because I knew that i would be able to use it the same way as I would a VW Golf. The worst thing you can do to these cars is to leave them unused.

pp

robmug

1,047 posts

293 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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Have you owned the car since new? No. So at least one of the former owners will have used it as intended. Possibly even for most of its life. Then cleaned it and sold it to you as a garage queen!

fieldl

1,320 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th December 2006
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My 996 C4S lives outdoors and gets used nearly everyday.
Of course it can handle it. Ok it gets messy but you can always clean it
If I had a garage I'd have something that I couldn't use everyday/store outside like a caterfield, Noble etc etc.

nodz17

310 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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OK, I'm convinced.

I'll give it a go for a couple of months and report back.

Cheers all & Merry Christmas.

verysideways

10,271 posts

302 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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My 96 C2 has passed 101k miles now, is used every day (salt, snow, the lot) and runs better than a swiss watch (seriously!).

At the moment, because of all the moisture outside and the couple of lanes i use as shortcuts between my girlfriend's place and my office, it looks more like an off roader than a sports car but when i wash it this weekend it will be beautiful again.

There are people out there who have driven their air coolers daily for the last 20 years you know... don't knock it til you've tried it.

drivingwavey

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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verysideways said:
it looks more like an off roader than a sports car


:shudder:

verysideways said:
when i wash it this weekend it will be beautiful again.


apart from the bit you'll have missed

nutcase

1,145 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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You can't sell because of a rubbish reason like that- I'll come and help you build something for your driveway, and I'm sure theres other PH'ers who would give you a hand!

verysideways

10,271 posts

302 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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I might have to dash out and take a picture later, just so i can post it on here and make sleep envy cringe

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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Pete, you'll only make my cleaning OCD worse...

[goesofftowashhands]

simonharrod911

6,792 posts

262 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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nodz said:
It's beginning to dawn on me that I'm going to have to sell my dream/perfect spec 993 only a few months (and a few miles) after I bought her.

As mentioned in another thread, I've moved house and, due to grounding, can't get the car into the drive or garage (without putting down & picking up a huge, thick piece of chipboard that does nothing for my hernias!) So it's going to have to be left on the road which isn't ideal for protection from the elements or the local yobs (although it's in the garage now while I recover from yet another hernia op!).

Due to unforseen circumstances it's also going to become in January my main vehicle for commuting rather than the twice a week garage queen I'd intended. And this will mean a sharp hike in my insurance (currently a 5k limited mileage, in-garage policy).

And the salt issue, being discussed elsewhere, is really ramming home the impracticalities of using the 993 on a daily basis in the winter. I can't hose it down every day and I'm sure my neighbours won't be happy with the icy road/pavement that i create if I tried.

I know I'll be back to Porsche (perhaps when I reach the top of a long waiting list for the garages opposite my house) - and I've loved having the car even for such a short time - but for now I can see no way out but to sell.

And it's not a great time to be doing that either.

Not expecting any answers - just wanted to get it off my chest.

(And if anyone wants an immaculate, completely sorted RH Drive, manual, Midnight Blue, 1996 993 C4 Varioram that's done 69k miles with FSH and marble leather, RS clutch/flywheel, MP3 player, upgraded lights, hardback seats etc just PM me. Steve Bull inspected it just 300 miles ago and said it was in fantastic nick. Thinking about putting it up in January at £25,999).

Edited by nodz on Tuesday 19th December 20:10


Don't get this. Why don't you just move to more suitable accommodation?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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verysideways said:
I might have to dash out and take a picture later, just so i can post it on here and make sleep envy cringe
Oh yes Do it hehe

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Wednesday 20th December 2006
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irked

don't you start