Boxster Upgrade Options

Boxster Upgrade Options

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arwebs

Original Poster:

2,356 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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I'm thinking of upgrading the power of my 2.7 Boxster but I'm not sure what the options are.

I spoke with a nice chap at essentialstyling and he told me of an "emisions-legal" replacement exhaust system they're working on with Janspeed which all-in should give around 40 bhp for around £1k. The first question is: is this realistic or am I being told porkies?

Either way, what other options are open to me and what effect would any mods have on resale value?

BTW, the car is just under 2 years old and I expect to keep it for another 18 months or so.

Cheers
Andy

clubsport

7,260 posts

258 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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40bhp gain with an exhuat change?????

Why do Porsche go to all the trouble of all the modifications which makes the Boxster S if it was as simple as that.

Do a search on tuning Boxsters on this forum,it has been covered many times,,,usual induction changes can expect say 15bhp...any serious tuning involves changing the lump.
Look for proof before spending any money on potentially bogus performance gains.

iguana

7,044 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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40 bhp from an exhaust change, well yes its possible as long as he means its comes with a 996 engine attached even spending over £4k modifying the 2.7 lump you won't get you a 40bhp gain.

arwebs

Original Poster:

2,356 posts

250 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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The explanation was that Porsche deliberately restrict the Boxster as the 3.2S would be "at least" as quick as the 3.4 Carrera if it wasn't (as it's lighter) and this isn't a good marketing move given that it's about £18000 cheaper than the 911.

Further, both the 3.2 and the 2.7 benefit from free-flowing exhaust and cat whereas with the 911 it is pretty much as good as it gets (within reason of course).

To be fair, the explanation seems plausible - but is it?

Andy

iguana

7,044 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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arwebs said: The explanation was that Porsche deliberately restrict the Boxster as the 3.2S would be "at least" as quick as the 3.4 Carrera if it wasn't (as it's lighter) and this isn't a good marketing move given that it's about £18000 cheaper than the 911.

Further, both the 3.2 and the 2.7 benefit from free-flowing exhaust and cat whereas with the 911 it is pretty much as good as it gets (within reason of course).

To be fair, the explanation seems plausible - but is it?

Andy


Well the point about the box having less power than the 996 is a fair point, i mean if Porsche sold a £40K box that offered noticably better performance than a £65K 996 C2, not many other than 911 diehards or those needing 4 seats would want to spend the extra cash.

There are only small gains from exhaust mods on either 996 or Box anyway, which is why Box owners after big power go the forced induction route or plonk in a 996 3.4/3.6/GT3 engine.

dazren

22,612 posts

261 months

Tuesday 10th June 2003
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arwebs said:
To be fair, the explanation seems plausible - but is it?

Read Iguana's post post again and this time bear mind that until recently he worked for a company doing tuning work & power upgrades on Porsche, Audi and VW. He knows his stuff.

DAZ

22/11/71

189 posts

274 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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The bottom line is your better to spend your money on a boxster S or a 996 (as I've just done) rather than waste your cash on tuning your 2.7.

The money you spend will never be recouped when you try to sell a modified car.

22/11/71

GregE240

10,857 posts

267 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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As far as I know, without going forced induction you can probably squeeze another 20-25bhp from a new exhaust, headers (manifolds), remapped ignition and air filter.

Have a look at TechArts website, should give you a few ideas on what bang you might get for your buck. Alternatively, have a look at http:forum.boxa.net in the tuning section. That will give you some ideas.

But, the song remains the same. If you want sigificantly more power, chop in your 2.7 (fine as it may be) for an S.

If money is no object, Mr Ruf would be only too happy to remove the 2.7 and replace it with a 996 3.6 lump, which will give you 320 odd bhp. Start saving!

Cheers,

Greg

Grant3

3,635 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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I agree with 22/11 don't spend money on mods. spend it on the S, read the "S" or not post & see all the extra's you get for your dosh...you know it makes sense.

ninemeister

1,146 posts

258 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Anyone who thinks an exhaust change will give 40bhp is living with the fairies, the best we have ever seen is 15bhp from a well designed set of headers and a free flow silencer.

We tested a Janspeed auspuff on a 2.5 Boxster. Sum gain nil. We took it off again and gave it back to the owner.

A Cargraphic one, with 100 cell cats made 12bhp peak and 21bhp in the mid range, fitted price with air filter around £1500.

rodsmith

261 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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I've 'upgraded' my exhaust (on my 2.5) and changed my air box to the evo system and all I've got to say is don't do it!

Save your money, sell your car and buy a boxster 'S'!

mogul

14,987 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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I've just come back from picking my new 996 up from the factory and was chatting to the guy who handed over my car. His girlfriend works in the Boxster development dept (or something like that) and he claims that the standard GT2 engine fits in the Boxster, they have done it and the car is good for 450bhp +. They won't do this as it would upset people like me who have just parted with over 70k!........that's what I call an upgrade!

arwebs

Original Poster:

2,356 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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Well I think that's agreed then

Eventually I'd like to get an S but I can't quite stretch to it yet. Perhaps next year...

BTW, does anyone know whether there will be a performance upgrade on MY2005 Boxsters? I'd be gutted to get an S only to find that if I'd waited there would be one with 280bhp.

Cheers
Andy

Grant3

3,635 posts

255 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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According to AUTOCAR there is a new Boxter due out either late next or late 2005 !!

arwebs

Original Poster:

2,356 posts

250 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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Thanks.

Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Monday 16th June 2003
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mogul said: I've just come back from picking my new 996 up from the factory and was chatting to the guy who handed over my car. His girlfriend works in the Boxster development dept (or something like that) and he claims that the standard GT2 engine fits in the Boxster, they have done it and the car is good for 450bhp +. They won't do this as it would upset people like me who have just parted with over 70k!........that's what I call an upgrade!



Wahoo! Hmmmmn. So two years from now when the warranty runs out....


>> Edited by Don on Monday 16th June 16:22

vandereydt

149 posts

257 months

Monday 16th June 2003
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I have researched this topic many times, I own a 2.5 Boxster.Forget upgrading the 2.5 or 2.7 engine.
Transplant a 3.4 or 3.6 engine. Ruf does a wonderfull job at it, including gearbox, suspension and not to forget the brakes, count on +40.000 euro's.

Iguana, do you know who transplants the GT3 engines into the Boxster? do you know anybody who's driven one. What did they do to the suspension and brakes?

Anyway it's a great car, if yo upgrade the cash to 911 cashlevel you'll get a super hot boxster.
(And guess what I am saving my money for??)

clubsport

7,260 posts

258 months

Monday 16th June 2003
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Isn't that what the 996 is for anyhow??? why upgrade your Boxster when you can upgrade your car for the same money?

iguana

7,044 posts

260 months

Monday 16th June 2003
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vandereydt said:
Iguana, do you know who transplants the GT3 engines into the Boxster? do you know anybody who's driven one. What did they do to the suspension and brakes?




Hi, yes if you want to drop me an e-mail I can give you the details.

That nice Dr Alex should be doing a feature on a GT3 engined Boxster for PH soon too

cysatus

12 posts

243 months

Thursday 29th January 2004
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hi, I have a boxster 2.5 and i do find it very quick. I havent a clue what brake horse power it is but it seems to be pretty good on take off and at high speeds. I have had 141 but wouldnt dare go any faster as that was too fast for me. Plus with the police hiding speed traps behind signs it makes opening your car up hard to do. Anyways you guys seem to know alot about boxsters. I have been thinking about getting an induction kit from essestialstyling also a K&N filter from ebay for my 2.5 boxster. Also they guy at essensial styling who is a nice guy told me this:

Hi David sounds great - your car is quick with that sort of power i would think yours has a
chip and induction/exhaust mods as that gives ahuge amount of power to the
Boxster which was de-tuned by Porsche so it didnt out perform the 996 on its
launch



Have porsche done this? what idiots!
My boxster is quick but i dont know what if anything has been added to it.

I know the best thing to do is drop a 996 engine engine into my boxster but i dont really wanna go down them lines. I have just added the 996 gt2 front bumper and it looks really good with those new clear headlights.

If anyone has any ideas to help me email me as soon as you can. I have thought about getting a carrera but i love the boxsters 2 seats. I have also thought about changing to a 3.5 box but for i have spent too much on my 2.5 and it looks great