My 993 RSR/Race Car nearly finished
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Riviera is THE colour for the 993. 
Very very interesting. I really like projects like this, especially when done thoroughly and in the guise of a genuine race model.
I'm toying with the idea of a Mk1 GT3 RS recreation, going as far as seam welding and welded rollcage, full repaint to Carrera White b9a (as per original).
I take it the shell was taken back to bare metal, fitted with rollcage (welded by the looks of it) and a full repaint. What were the numbers like getting it to that stage?
I'm toying with the idea of a Mk1 GT3 RS recreation, going as far as seam welding and welded rollcage, full repaint to Carrera White b9a (as per original).
I take it the shell was taken back to bare metal, fitted with rollcage (welded by the looks of it) and a full repaint. What were the numbers like getting it to that stage?
Hi. The car is a racing car with a known history. It already had a fresh 3.8 engine, super cup top mounts, springs, pro track suspension, entinguisher, six points etc.. I wanted to tidy the car because it drove beautifully but the interior was blue and exterior yellow! I spoke to Paul Mclean of GT Classics who is a friend of mine and since the car was RHD we decided to build a 993 RS Clubsport re creation with logical circuit racing upgrades ( 993 Cups were all LHD so there was no real point of re creating a cup car). Tony Littlejohn of GTR Motorsport did the work and since we all have racing experience it was relatively easy to create a spec that made sense. Tony stripped the shell and it was sent off for acid dipping and E.Coating. When it got back we could see what if any panels needed replacing. We agreed that there was to be no filler at all on any panel so - since the car was a racing car - it wasn'nt surprising that several panels were replaced with new ones supplied by Porsche. The chassis was correctly seam welded where applicable, the correct extra front bulkhead fitted and a cage fitted to exact Matter specifications down to sourcing the correct metal tubing from the same factory that supplied Matter. Then the new pannels were fitted, including both rear quarters a front inner wing, new roof, side sill and a brand new Porsche supplied Aluminium RS bonnet and stay. Once the shell was prepared, Tony sprayed it in Riverara blue taking car to exactly recreate a Clubsport paint finish which I now know requires great skill and knowledge. All light fittings were replaced with new items, inner wings, gasgets etc.. The loom was taken out, stripped back to M030 Spec and re wrapped in the correct loom wrap which
Paul had sourced from Germany. During this process the suspension was sent off to Jazz where it was sand blasted, full shperically jointed (the cup car was only partially solid bushed) rear sub frame solid bushed, new wheel bearings fitted along with Motorsport back plates and every nut and bolt repalced with new items. Power steering was removed along with the heat exchangers to save weight although the pipework was fitted to the chasis to enable both to be easily re fitted at a later date if required. All glass was removed and plexiglass fitted to side and the rear to keep the weight down. Paul insisted that the glass was made in exactly the same green tint as the orignal clubsport glass. Front and rear drop links were replaced with new RS items along with both anti roll bars. Front calipers were replaced with brand new RS items - luckily the rears were correct and were consiquently about the only item that wasn't replaced or upgraded. The engine tin wear was re poweder coated and a new front undertray fitted. The car is almost completed now and both Paul and Tony are happy with the result. It looks like a 993Clubsport that has just rolled off of the production line. I will keep the car road registered but Parr will set the geo for slicks as I intend to track it regularly and give it an occasional race outing
All in we are hoping that the car will weigh in at under 1100KG. Spherically jointed, on slicks and with around 320BHP it should be a quick little car.
It has been an interesting project and has greatly increased my respect for both Paul and Tony who not only have huge knowledge in all things air cooled - especially RS and RSRS but also have the very high levels of skill required to produce the correct results.
Paul had sourced from Germany. During this process the suspension was sent off to Jazz where it was sand blasted, full shperically jointed (the cup car was only partially solid bushed) rear sub frame solid bushed, new wheel bearings fitted along with Motorsport back plates and every nut and bolt repalced with new items. Power steering was removed along with the heat exchangers to save weight although the pipework was fitted to the chasis to enable both to be easily re fitted at a later date if required. All glass was removed and plexiglass fitted to side and the rear to keep the weight down. Paul insisted that the glass was made in exactly the same green tint as the orignal clubsport glass. Front and rear drop links were replaced with new RS items along with both anti roll bars. Front calipers were replaced with brand new RS items - luckily the rears were correct and were consiquently about the only item that wasn't replaced or upgraded. The engine tin wear was re poweder coated and a new front undertray fitted. The car is almost completed now and both Paul and Tony are happy with the result. It looks like a 993Clubsport that has just rolled off of the production line. I will keep the car road registered but Parr will set the geo for slicks as I intend to track it regularly and give it an occasional race outing
All in we are hoping that the car will weigh in at under 1100KG. Spherically jointed, on slicks and with around 320BHP it should be a quick little car.
It has been an interesting project and has greatly increased my respect for both Paul and Tony who not only have huge knowledge in all things air cooled - especially RS and RSRS but also have the very high levels of skill required to produce the correct results.
Edited by Steve Rance on Thursday 11th March 12:51
GT Glee said:
Very very interesting. I really like projects like this, especially when done thoroughly and in the guise of a genuine race model.
I'm toying with the idea of a Mk1 GT3 RS recreation, going as far as seam welding and welded rollcage, full repaint to Carrera White b9a (as per original).
I take it the shell was taken back to bare metal, fitted with rollcage (welded by the looks of it) and a full repaint. What were the numbers like getting it to that stage?
Sounds an interesting project but be careful, to do it properly will cost more than buying a genuine 996RS. It was easier to justify the spend on my car as it already has an interesting race history and 993 Club sports have stratospheric market values which obviously helped. I'm toying with the idea of a Mk1 GT3 RS recreation, going as far as seam welding and welded rollcage, full repaint to Carrera White b9a (as per original).
I take it the shell was taken back to bare metal, fitted with rollcage (welded by the looks of it) and a full repaint. What were the numbers like getting it to that stage?
sleep envy said:
Steve Rance said:
Tony sprayed it in Riverara blue taking car to exactly recreate a Clubsport paint finish which I now know requires great skill and knowledge
what's the difference between that and say the finish on a RS CS?The Clubsports had no underseal and if you look underneith you will see a grey undercoat with a slight overspray of the body colour. The amount of overspray will vairy depending on the pannel. to get it right is very difficult. Tony was trained by Porsche in Germany to work specifically on the 964 and 993 rs and club sports. He also has extensive knowledge of previous RS's and all RSR's. Both Tony and Paul have a high level of detail knowledge that is essential when repairing and re creating these cars. Basically, if you see a clubsport with paint everywhere under the car, firstly you can tell that it has been restored or repaired and secondly it has been done incorrectly.
Edited by Steve Rance on Sunday 14th March 19:50
Steve Rance said:
GT Glee said:
Very very interesting. I really like projects like this, especially when done thoroughly and in the guise of a genuine race model.
I'm toying with the idea of a Mk1 GT3 RS recreation, going as far as seam welding and welded rollcage, full repaint to Carrera White b9a (as per original).
I take it the shell was taken back to bare metal, fitted with rollcage (welded by the looks of it) and a full repaint. What were the numbers like getting it to that stage?
Sounds an interesting project but be careful, to do it properly will cost more than buying a genuine 996RS. It was easier to justify the spend on my car as it already has an interesting race history and 993 Club sports have stratospheric market values which obviously helped. I'm toying with the idea of a Mk1 GT3 RS recreation, going as far as seam welding and welded rollcage, full repaint to Carrera White b9a (as per original).
I take it the shell was taken back to bare metal, fitted with rollcage (welded by the looks of it) and a full repaint. What were the numbers like getting it to that stage?
The series 1 RS' were only customer racing cars and so at least £50k to aquire (a tatty well raced example at that), and completely out my knowledge bounds whether it would even be possible to road register such a car. I'd be coming from another angle with my Carrera, but with stiffening the shell and an exacting s1 RS aero package, aimed at road and track use.
I would go with the inherent 3.4 unit to begin with but with intake exhaust mods to lift power to ~320bhp. Ideally I would like to factor M96/76 mounting points when the shell is modified, giving this option at a later date without having to cut coated (and possibly re-zinced) metal.
With a target weight of 1200kg I'd be looking at ~275bhp/tonne. Running gear would remain stock but with adjustable-height coilovers, and stiffening by rebushing. The crucial thing for me is to create a stiff and strong shell (the foundation), onto which I could upgrade running gear as and when finances allow.
Thanks for sharing information about your build!
Sounds like a great project. You may want to start from a 996 cup rather than a road car. they can be picked up for under 30k, the chasis work is already done and it will have the correct base engine ie; a GT3 engine, fully plexiglassed and with carbon doors. Tidy it, get it road registered and put on a rsr body kit and you are basically there. The other benefits are that it will already be fitted with air jacks and second hand wheels are readily availiable relatively cheaply. You will have a lovely track car but bear in mind that the 996 cup is certainly not a car for the feint hearted. I would say that this route will give you something much more authentic with propper GT racing performance at a fraction of converting a road car.
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