Most sought-after non-RS GT3

Most sought-after non-RS GT3

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lboase

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120 posts

128 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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If you fast forward 10 or 20 years, which non-RS GT3 will be seen as "THE ONE"???

By then, a boggo C2S will probably be faster so it will come down to feel, sound, looks, sense of occasion... that "je ne sais quoi" which makes it special.

My guess is it will be between the 996 MK1 and the 997 Gen2: The mk1 being the original, hand built, no driver aids etc and the Gen 2 being the final iteration of the Mezger, last of the manual....

If I had to pick one I'd say the MK1, in Zanzibar or SY and clubsport spec.

What do you reckon?

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I think there are far too many variants for any single one of them to become THE one. Plus serious big money collectors will only be interested in mint RS versions. Non-RS cars should still be relatively valuable, but not sure if any particular variant will be worth significantly more than any other - condition apart. I'd guess 997s will always be slightly more valuable than earlier GT3s, especially in Gen 2 form. That's where I'd put my money if I was in the market.

marky911

4,427 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I reckon the 996 Mk1 GT3 CS in Zanzibar, Guards or Speed yellow.

Funnily enough exactly the car I'm about to sell to finish my house refurb.
Boy am I going to be sick in 10 years time. cry

28 UK cars make it rarer than any UK GT3, RSs included. The original GT3.


Agree re the 997.2. The last Mezger, manual GT3.

Edited by marky911 on Wednesday 30th July 23:06

mollytherocker

14,372 posts

215 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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It will be the original first car, no question. Just like the 2.7RS.

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

206 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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mollytherocker said:
It will be the original first car, no question. Just like the 2.7RS.
I don't think you can compare the two in that way. There was nothing directly equivalent to the original 2.7 RS until the much, much later 964 RS and that's a pretty remote link. You could consider the 2.7 RS (and many people do) to be the last development of the very original 911 i.e. pre impact-bumper design. By that logic, the 997.2 GT3 should be the one people will eventually remember as the last development of the "manual" GT3. But I doubt anyone will really be that bothered about any of the newer cars in the same way they now idolise the 2.7 RS. There was only ever one original 911 and nothing is going to change that fact. Basically the longer the 911 lineage continues the more valuable the original will become.

lboase

Original Poster:

120 posts

128 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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THE ONE is maybe a little strong... asked another way, of the 996 and 997 (ie the Mezger engined cars) which will be more sought after in the fullness of time? The original 996 or the more accomplished 997?

(PS This is not supposed to be another value-related thread)

hondansx

4,671 posts

231 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Whichever they built fewer of. But certainly the 996 or 997 would be the pick i'm sure.

The issue with the 991 it will be bettered. It is a car crammed for of technology and technology will only improve. The fact it is a damn good car will mean the 991 GT3 (Gen 1) will always go for healthy money, but well into the future i imagine it will be the bargain/unloved GT3, IMO.

Ken Sington

3,961 posts

244 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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In 20 years time, is any car as we know them today going to be worth anything?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

271 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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depends when fuel runs out, interest rates go up or car TAX get so high on >225 CO2 cars to a level people cannot be arsed.

I for one only play with cars because saving rates are so low, if I could get 6 or 7% like a few years back on my money In a isa I would not be spending money on cars.

TAX is also going to be an issue with higher Co2 cars a 996gt3 is half the price to tax than a 997 GT3 in 10 years time a 997 might be 4x the price to tax !!!
so pre 2005 cars are cheap to store and look after in that respect.

mollytherocker

14,372 posts

215 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Ken Sington said:
In 20 years time, is any car as we know them today going to be worth anything?
Its an interesting question and depends on many factors!

My view is that they will VERY sought after and extremely valuable. In 20 years, we will be using driverless cars powered by hydrogen? Cars will just be transport.

Cars like the GT3 will be toys to remind us of the days when we used to drive.


Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

149 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Oooooo looks like people have forgotten their happy pills today! jeeeezzzzzz.........

Off out to burn my GT3...

boxsey

3,575 posts

216 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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marky911 said:
I reckon the 996 Mk1 GT3 CS in Zanzibar, Guards or Speed yellow.

Funnily enough exactly the car I'm about to sell to finish my house refurb.
Boy am I going to be sick in 10 years time. cry

28 UK cars make it rarer than any UK GT3, RSs included. The original GT3.


Agree re the 997.2. The last Mezger, manual GT3.

Edited by marky911 on Wednesday 30th July 23:06
Trying to look on the bright side for you....at least it's a good time to sell. frown

isaldiri

20,051 posts

174 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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anonymous said:
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in that case all the more reason to buy the car you truly enjoy to drive and drive the damn thing while you still can whatever the car is than worry/talk incessantly about car values...?

(last bit not directed at you but more a general observation as there seem to be more posts about car values than what the cars are to drive whether on the older cars or the new 991 gt3....)

Actus Reus

4,238 posts

161 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Slickhillsy said:
Off out to burn my GT3...
I'll have it off you - £20 final offer though, as it'll be illegal this time next week.

Seriously though, I agree - long-term the outlook isn't great is it? Will trackdays be the last bastion of fun for actual drivers?

uktrailmonster

4,827 posts

206 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Some of you guys have been watching too much Tomorrow's World. 20 years is but 3 or 4 iterations of the 991 at most.

F40GT346

211 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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My vote is for the 997.1 GT3, on the basis that I think it looks the best. The Gen 2 for me starts to look like they have stuck bits on it and the wing is too fussy. The Gen 1 looks more complete.


keep it lit

3,388 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

149 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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F40GT346 said:
My vote is for the 997.1 GT3, on the basis that I think it looks the best. The Gen 2 for me starts to look like they have stuck bits on it and the wing is too fussy. The Gen 1 looks more complete.
Finally some sense! :-D

V8KSN

4,711 posts

190 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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keep it lit said:
Lovely! thumbup

V8KSN

4,711 posts

190 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Slickhillsy said:
F40GT346 said:
My vote is for the 997.1 GT3, on the basis that I think it looks the best. The Gen 2 for me starts to look like they have stuck bits on it and the wing is too fussy. The Gen 1 looks more complete.
Finally some sense! :-D