Should I buy a Cayman R, or a Boxster Spyder?

Should I buy a Cayman R, or a Boxster Spyder?

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bqf

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I fancy a 2-seat Porsche that I can buy new, enjoy, and that might go up in value over the longer term (20 years).

Of these two - which do you think would be the better option, for

A - immediate driving pleasure
B - investment potential (or smallest loss over 20 years)

Views (from owners?)

bqf

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Don't mind - Convertible or Coupe. Really can't decide whether Spyder or Cay R would be more fun - suspect I'll need to drive both.

....was interested in owners views I guess.

bqf

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spareparts said:
I think the Spyder is a more special car in general, practicalities aside.
The problem is, I think you're right...but I really really like the Cay R. Both £50k, both great value, both will see me to retirement.

Blast you Porsche, with your keenly-priced driving warriors!

bqf

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thecarfinders said:
Having driven both extensively, i think the Boxter Spyder is a nicer car to drive, but the roof is a nightmare. I think as most people have put, if you are thinking from an investment perspective, dont buy either.
I want criteria A and B in the car - so it has to be excellent to drive for the period of ownership.

As much as I like the 968 CS, it doesn't fulfil criteria A (for me). I don't want a GTx 911, and I really like the Cay R and Spyder.

If I only wanted an investment for £50k, I'd buy a 1999 Ferrari 550. But thats A not new, B not something you can actually use every day and C probably not as good a drive as these two.

Hmmm.

bqf

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tony russell said:
If it's going to see you into retirement remember that 1 in 6 people never reach retirement age so you might never know the answer ( where's that dice).
Hope this helps ...........
I didn't expect that, thats for sure. hehe

bqf

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rob.kellock said:
Peter Cee said:
Easy choice this one : Boxster S

Open top motoring, comfort, practicality and 95% of the performance of the Spyder.
Probably more like 99.5% of the performance of the Spyder...

Thing is, you don't get that undefinable "something" that the Spyder offers. I can get excited about the Spyder, I can't get excited about a Boxster S. Not rational I know and for me personally, similar logic applies to the Cayman R.
Updated my PH garage now - probably should have mentioned that I have a Boxster S racecar, so obviously fond of them.

But, the Spyder is special - completely agree I'd find it hard to get excited about a Boxster S as another road car, and it definitely won't satisfy Criteria B - investment potential.

Cars from special marques that sell in low numbers always seem to creep up in value - as was mentioned the 911 Speedsters aren't cheap and are on the up - and the 968CS is coming out of it's banger phase and good examples are now climbing into 'collectable'.

In 20 years time I reckon the Spyder will get my money back, but the Cayman R won't - (as I suspect it will be a long and consistent sales hit, whereas the Spyder won't be around for long...). But the Cayman R is way more practical.

Hmmmm. Anyone with a Cayman R here?

bqf

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DS240 said:
You can't buy a new one any more, unless it is sat in stock some where.
EH? YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT?

Just configured one on Porsche website - I hope you're having a laugh

bqf

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shoestring7 said:
£50k and worried about residuals?

Shouldn't you be trying to decide between a 964RS and a 964 Speedster?

SS7
Not worried about residuals, just interested in views about future desirability. I want a new, new car too.

bqf

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Only 10 Spyders left in the UK new! No more orders!!

Only 1 black one, which is at my local OPC - I've made my appointment and I'll be down there tomorrow.....

bqf

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mollytherocker said:
bqf said:
Only 10 Spyders left in the UK new! No more orders!!

Only 1 black one, which is at my local OPC - I've made my appointment and I'll be down there tomorrow.....
You could register it Jan 1st 2012 which could make it the only 2012 Spyder?

MTR
The dealership have already registered it :doh:

But if it's a nice spec and I get a good deal, I'm as flexible as a jelly in a 2CV

bqf

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J-P said:
bqf said:
Only 10 Spyders left in the UK new! No more orders!!

Only 1 black one, which is at my local OPC - I've made my appointment and I'll be down there tomorrow.....
That'll be Porsche mid Sussex then wink
No, Tonbridge - is there a black one in Mid-Sussex?

The chap at T'bridge said there are 10 left - 1x red, 1x black and 8x white.

Only black or red acceptable!

bqf

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Monday 21st November 2011
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Went to see the black spyder on Saturday - best price (it's already registered, but hasn't done any miles) was £48,292!!

I thought that was a bit steep for effectively a used car.

I'm not paying that - thats what I wanted to pay for a brand new one, in the colour I wanted.

Hurrumph.

bqf

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spyderman8 said:
bqf said:
Went to see the black spyder on Saturday - best price (it's already registered, but hasn't done any miles) was £48,292!!

I thought that was a bit steep for effectively a used car.
There's a black one at OPC Aberdeen with a mere 2160 miles on the clock (hardly run in) for £12k less - that suit you?

Had a demonstration of the roof removal procedure on Saturday and it looks a right faff - much rather just press a button!
Yes, perhaps buying used makes a bit more sense - 2,000 miles is nothing is it?

Whereas £12,000, is quite definitely worth having!