Cheap 996 GT3 Cup?

Cheap 996 GT3 Cup?

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DustyC

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12,820 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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This seems exceptionally cheap for what it is, or am I deceived?

www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=23721&s=119

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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Does seem like quite a steal

clubsport

7,260 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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maybe??? i have never seen a rhd cup car....
the interior fitments visible look too conventional exactly like a C2.

There is no remark on the engine or output.

I could be way off here, but it looks like a very good conversion on a C2 to me with some serious money having been spent. It does look like a lot of fun anyhow.

Cyrus1971

855 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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Call the seller - get the VIN and servicing garage and ask for a check on model and spec. All main dealers are happy to help with this. If he is a legit seller then no issues. FYI - I live in Putney (next to Wimbledon) and have seen this car around sometimes.

DustyC

Original Poster:

12,820 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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I would guess that Clubsport is right, especially since the ad states "£12K just spent".

I couldn't afford it although I'd love to. Just thought it was worth pointing out.

peterpeter

6,437 posts

258 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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DustyC said:
I would guess that Clubsport is right, especially since the ad states "£12K just spent".

I couldn't afford it although I'd love to. Just thought it was worth pointing out.


may have been actually raced.
I saw that car parked outside the M+S in fulham Broadway last thursday night. It looked stunning.
But for that price I would say it has to be an ex race car.

GuyR

2,215 posts

283 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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Proper GT3 Cup Cars, even ex-race are worth more than that. The RHD has got to mean it's a standard car with mods..........unless anyone has ever heard of RHD Cup Cars.........?

rico

7,916 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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I've emailed the seller to find out more information. I know someone who might be interested in it so i'll see what i get back.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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Yes I thought that for that money and look it had to be a standard car converted to cup spec. Cup cars didn't have composite panels did they?

Ex Cup cars can be bought for the £35k mark (and probably less if you know where to go) so it may just be what it claims to be.

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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GuyR said:

unless anyone has ever heard of RHD Cup Cars.........?


yip know of & have driven one, but it didnt race tho-

www.pistonheads.com/porsche/default.asp?storyId=6834

Early cup cars were 3.4 not GT3 power, so maybe an early 3.4 cup car made in RHD or perhaps a converted LHD to RHD. It may now have GT3 engine retro-fitted hence £12k just spent? or be a normal C2 3.4 stripped & caged up, could also be an HPI spanked normal 996 thats been repaired, can be very cheap to buy a spanked 996C2.

If GT3 powered then yes a lot of go for the ££ (a lot cheaper than Richard Long spent on making his GT3 an R anyway!!) & I bet a huge amount of fun, but tough to say if its a bargain without knowing exactly what it is.

Looks great in the pics tho doesnt it






iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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rico said:
I've emailed the seller to find out more information. I know someone who might be interested in it so i'll see what i get back.


Baffle him with your tech knowledge rico, im sure you can bid him down when he is faced with a punter with your extensive knowledge & experience of the marque

DustyC

Original Poster:

12,820 posts

255 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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iguana said:


Looks great in the pics tho doesnt it



A damn sight better than that new wobbly skip that everyone is creaming over in another forum.

Hope Im safe in here
BTW: Iguana, you going to LM or any events soon? Need to talk to you about 944s again.
If not I'll email.

clubsport

7,260 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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Iguana....I remember your write up of that....but was it a cup car?
I thought a specific number of C2 were taken from the factory,,,given a slightly different chassis number and converted for racing in the porsche cup series.

So why would one not race? particularly as it would have no doubt cost more for the factory to make a rhd version....where is the advantage of a rhd car on track?

Seems to me some people choose to rip the interior out, stick some dodgy seats and harnesses in and call it cup car.????

Nothing wrong with that of course as I would be happy to entertain offers in excess of £100k for my very rare RS le mans edition,,,which curiously never raced

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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clubsport said:

Seems to me some people choose to rip the interior out, stick some dodgy seats and harnesses in and call it cup car.????



CS no need to abuse the merkin wagon like that

Yeh not sure on the chassis number front, coz despite my ragging of Melv not having a 'real' RS he can counter with having a pukka porsche race car with a competition car chassis number, rather than a normal 964 one that just happens to have an RS badge.


So indeed maybe the Udrive RHD 996 cup one was just drawn from the 'normal' RHD C2 stock & doesnt have a competition chassis number. All the cup bits obtained through porker competition dept I was told tho.


Oh advantage of RHD on track- well your not always sitting on the downhill side & thus being thrown into the door on all the UK clockwise circuits are you! paddock hill bend lingers strongly in my mind for that....

On a semi serious note, when its all happening in a bit of a frenzy some people do prefer to do what comes naturally, which if you are used to RHD on a LHD can mean smashing your left hand up against the door when you go to change gear..... not that ive dislocated my little finger by doing that of course or anything.....


I mean Melv has an excuse for LHD, the rest of you on the other hand are just cheapskates



Dusty- no not at 'Lemons' -mail me old bean.

clubsport

7,260 posts

259 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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I mean Melv has an excuse for LHD, the rest of you on the other hand are just cheapskates


? Slightly rich from a man who doesn't believe in owning a car worth more than a grand

iguana

7,044 posts

261 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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clubsport said:



? Slightly rich from a man who doesn't believe in owning a car worth more than a grand



Oi Cheapskate-sport, I can get the race relations lot onto you for that comment.

You see my religion is Pikeafarian, which means we have to have cheapo cars- and lots and lots of them, its in our bible- which happens to be the bargain cars section of the Autotrader.

I've been dragged up before the chief Pike on several occasions when ive not only spent well over the allowed amount, but have also on a few occasions had MOT, road tax, & insurance all of which are of course very sinfull in my religion.




adamt

2,820 posts

253 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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If its too good to be true...it is.

That car looks like a GT3 R, not a cup car imho

all the best
adam

rico

7,916 posts

256 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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iguana said:

Baffle him with your tech knowledge rico, im sure you can bid him down when he is faced with a punter with your extensive knowledge & experience of the marque


Now where's that [slap] smilie... damn!

What's Dom been saying!

lightweight

1,165 posts

249 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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It is an ex paragon cup car. As early cars were indead built on road cars hence this car has a VIN and is road leagal The guy bought it last year to go to Le Mans ans has spent a bit of cash on it but then he has a couple of other nice cars Top guy.

domster

8,431 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th May 2004
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Well if I had a spare 38k that guy would wonder why his arm socket is a bit draughty.