RE: 9ff Cayman CR-42

RE: 9ff Cayman CR-42

Thursday 5th April 2007

9ff Cayman CR-42

How 9ff has sharpened the fangs on Porsche's baby croc



A Cayman with a full-house flat six and a limited slip diff or a 911: which would be faster point-to-point? It’s a common question among enthusiasts, but one the factory has so far not allowed us to answer.

CR-42 cranks out 420bhp
CR-42 cranks out 420bhp
Porsche's mid-engine offering was carefully positioned so as not to endanger the range topper. It’s a crocodile with its teeth filed down, still devastating but not quite the killer it could be. That was marketing’s decision by all accounts.

However, the tuning fraternity answers to no one except the paying customer, so Dortmund-based 9ff fitted the LSD and, with nobody looking over their shoulder and saying they couldn’t do it, they went a bit mad -- and stuck in the lump from the 911 for good measure to create the CR-42.

They went for a full engine transplant, grabbing the nearest 3.8-litre lump from a new Carrera S and boring the cylinders out from 99mm to 102mm for good measure producing a capacity of 4.1-litres. However, that took them into the soft aluminium of the casing, so further reinforcement with Nikasil was required to stop the block melting after the first dose of throttle.

It's about to depart. Very rapidly
It's about to depart. Very rapidly
A new programme for the ECU, a special intake manifold and stainless steel sports exhaust complete the power upgrade, and also mean this Cayman now has real bite: 420bhp and 320lb-ft of torque in a 1,664Kg package to be precise.

The CR-42 hits 60mph in 4.4 seconds, thanks in part to the LSD with its 40-60 per cent locking mechanism and the outrageous dose of extra power. It can hang with the ‘grown up’ Porsches until the very furthest reaches of the performance envelope, before kicking them to a bloody pulp through the corners.

And thanks to 9ff’s flamboyant approach to exhaust tones you’d think the flat six had been mounted in the cabin -- which, considering the mid-engined layout of the Cayman, it almost has.

Firm but fluid handling
Firm but fluid handling
Banging through the gears with a short-shifter pillaged from the Cayman S, it's clear this Cayman has a much more serious persona. It's got an altogether sharper feel thanks to a bespoke clutch with a 30 per cent stronger pressure plate. And there’s no rubber in the gate, just metal rods and ball joints, and shift cables from the mighty GT3 RSR race car.

The top end is ‘only’ 195mph, agonisingly close to the milestone 200mph mark, but modifications to the gearing in the Getrag ‘box are apparently out of the question.

The Cayman was never about straightline speed anyway, it’s the precise and fluid handling that has excited everyone. Yet driven after the CR-42, the standard car would feel like driving on sponge. The ‘Hockenheim’ suspension option brings full metal rose joints and full adjustability too.

Herr Fatthauer is proud of his white wheels
Herr Fatthauer is proud of his white wheels
Centre-lock wheels show how far 9ff has gone to reduce the unsprung weight as these things are a nightmare to get past the TUV approval process and cost a fortune. Company owner Jan Fatthauer is understandably proud of the achievement and is selling them like aero mirrors at a 964 owners' convention. Aside from the racing technology, 9ff invests more time than most ensuring those stunning – and highly unusual -- white wheels are aligned, as Jan claims far too many people worry about race suspension and then forget the basics.

This attention to detail shines through everywhere at 9ff. When we arrived at the workshop, one employee diligently polished our footsteps from the mirror finish floor. I have seen this only once before, in McLaren’s garage at a Grand Prix. And that was when they were winning.

9ff shuns ceramic discs
9ff shuns ceramic discs
It’s no great surprise that the CR-42 handles with all the flair and precision you’d expect of a Cayman, and whereas a 911 needs to be hustled at times to exploit fully its unusual weight balance, the CR-42 turns in on command and then grips and grips through the corner. Best of all, with the fitment of a diff, you can get on the gas and really alter the attitude of the car from the rear wheels.

Ceramic brakes may well provide the ultimate in stopping power, but 9ff has retained the steel items – preferring the added feel they bring. Even so, stepping on the middle pedal feels like a head-on collision as the seatbelt scythes into you.

Fitting a Cayman with all this equipment isn’t cheap: a full works car costs €130,000 (about £88,000) -- more than the grown up GT3 it recently went head-to-head with in an unofficial test, although the CR-42 more than held its own apparently.

More than anything however, the CR-42 just makes you wonder the car the Cayman S might have been, and still could be, if you were to take Porsche's marketing strategy out of the equation.


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Discussion

jdelmo

Original Poster:

5,107 posts

209 months

Thursday 5th April 2007
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Looks fantastic. It has always been said that Porsche effectively de-tuned it in order to fit it into the range. Not sure about the wheels though.

emicen

8,578 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th April 2007
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They fit their centre lock wheels on every demo car they make it seems. They look hideous on every one too.

£88k for the ultimate Cayman is too much imho, regardless of how much it could take a fight to a GT3.

glenn mcmenamin

2,305 posts

238 months

Thursday 5th April 2007
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Errr,

Same power as a 997 GT3 (which will have a better engine) and weighs over 250KG's
more than a 997 GT3eek


That's a quarter of a ton ffs !!!


why on earth would you confused




Edited by glenn mcmenamin on Thursday 5th April 22:57

Grant3

3,635 posts

255 months

Thursday 5th April 2007
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jdelmo said:
Looks fantastic. It has always been said that Porsche effectively de-tuned it in order to fit it into the range. Not sure about the wheels though.


Actually not sure about any of it myself

£88k, 997GT3 money with more weight similar power & no taste! Looks like a Cayman has crashed into a Halfords store & collected various "gaping" bits & some bad wheels from a huggy bear Cadillac, depreciation will be of free fall levels. Ok it will be rare, so you can impress with the old blag.. "actually I've got one of only 3 in the country & its the fastest Cayman ever" sleep!

The standard Cayman S is a great car, spending a few bob on extra power could be worth it, but £88k FFS!!!

I know it is probably only supposed to be a showcase for their tuning prowess & they don't expect anyone to do the whole £88k thing, but it hurts when you shoot yourself in the foot shoot!

Ok rant over, I love all cars really hippy!



Edited by Grant3 on Thursday 5th April 23:06

2something

2,145 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th April 2007
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Can't claim to know much about these things, but how on earth did they manage to make it so much heavier than this Cayman with a 3.8 ?

www.wendland-tuning.de/SA09-2006.pdf (1364kg)

edited to add:
www.autobild.de/tuning/autotuning/artikel.php?artikel_id=11780&artikel_seite=1

Looks like the weight must have included fuel and someone like me driving as the the german article is claiming:

empty full
GT3 1460kg +220kg
9ff 1410kg +220kg


Edited by 2something on Thursday 5th April 23:24

kieran2006

5,983 posts

213 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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I disagree with some of the replies, I think it looks great! The lines look clean and I really like the wheels, a good simple design, they certainly aren't the sort of thing you'd find in Halfords! I'd lose the graphics and the white colour though.

GravelBen

15,684 posts

230 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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I quite like that don't think it looks bad taste at all really. The wheels are a bit of a love/hate thing I guess but to me they look more based on motorsport than chav/bling/etc cr@p.

That weight in the PH artical does seem to be wrong though, the article linked to above states it is 1410kg to the GT3's 1460.

scratchchin Wonder what it would cost for them to put a GT3 motor into it instead of a bored out Carrera motor?

dejoux

772 posts

283 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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Cant say the styling does much for me and I usually like the look of caymans.

If you have to have the ultimate Cayman I'd still rather get this
www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&i=15321
its only twice the price lick

chickensoup

469 posts

255 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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Small car that weighs more than a big car is not a very clever set up.

Perhaps they made the mistake of measuring the real weight


Edited by chickensoup on Friday 6th April 13:24

E38

723 posts

213 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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Grant3 said:
£88k, 997GT3 money with more weight similar power & no taste! Looks like a Cayman has crashed into a Halfords store & collected various "gaping" bits & some bad wheels from a huggy bear Cadillac...


scratchchin



IMO the gt3 looks much more like a crash into Halfords. This cayman is a much smoother design, ignoring the wheels. If it were just about looks I would have this over the GT3, however a drive may change my mind....

racer85

1 posts

204 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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From my knowledge the car has been built up for a dutch customer. Although the prices are extremely high, there seem to be some who really need that. I surely would prefer a normal GT3 because the stability especially of the engines is not relly good. In a test with a german car magazine the engine blow up last year

Grant3

3,635 posts

255 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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E38 said:
Grant3 said:
£88k, 997GT3 money with more weight similar power & no taste! Looks like a Cayman has crashed into a Halfords store & collected various "gaping" bits & some bad wheels from a huggy bear Cadillac...

IMO the gt3 looks much more like a crash into Halfords. This cayman is a much smoother design, ignoring the wheels. If it were just about looks I would have this over the GT3, however a drive may change my mind....


Yup fair point, your right, the GT3 did also crash into Halfords, but luckily it was a smaller branch the FF had a head on with a Halfords superstore hurl!
Anyway we all like different things, some people even like the E38 BMW 7 series


Edited by Grant3 on Friday 6th April 19:52

Rob_F

4,125 posts

264 months

Friday 6th April 2007
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Isn't CR-42 a watch style battery? It'd put me off, forever thinking of the battery.

Cheers,
Rob.

adamsmeeth

847 posts

205 months

Saturday 7th April 2007
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This bit would worry me a little if I were going to spunk 88k of my precious melvins on it:

"boring the cylinders out from 99mm to 102mm for good measure producing a capacity of 4.1-litres. However, that took them into the soft aluminium of the casing, so further reinforcement with Nikasil was required to stop the block melting after the first dose of throttle."

other than that it looks as though the limited slip diff has probably made the car the one it was always destined to be IMO.

That's not to say the standard S version is not a great performer. As an occasional passenger in my dads S I can fully atest to its capabilities as he is not especially feathery with his right foot

Adam

Rob_R

2,428 posts

245 months

Saturday 7th April 2007
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We're currently doing a 3.8 conversion on a Cayman at our dealership. There are quite a few niggles, heat management can be a bit of a problem not to mention breathing. There are quite a few things you have to uprate to get it to cope with the power.

breezy

180 posts

226 months

Sunday 8th April 2007
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I'd like to know how much the LSD costs on its own...

K-ManS

2 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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One item you should take note of is that the first customer car in the U.S. has been in and out of the shop several times since October 2006 and is still not running correctly. The owner has provided information at www.caymanclub.net and apparently isn't pleased with 9ff's lack of progress on his car.

Until 9ff gets that car up and running correctly I have serious doubts about their ability to effectively tune the Cayman.

bigbcraig

38 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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i'd rather the ruf RK.

rob974y

36 posts

231 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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I think it looks great personally, enough 911 looking but enough different too, the wheels are amazing, proper german style

FINFAST

87 posts

276 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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Does anyone know the where we can veiw the results of the unofficial test with the GT3?