Self Opening Doors (at Speed)

Self Opening Doors (at Speed)

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ghosty o''shark

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184 posts

275 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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I've had a good look through the handbook but I can't find the paragraph that explains how the self opening door is activated when travelling at huge speeds on the motorway. It's an interesting feature, granted it was a bit warm inside but I'm really not too keen on the car deciding to open the window and pop the door for me.
I'm glad it chooses to do the drivers door as I don't often have a passenger.
Has anyone else experienced this? Is it easily fixed?


andyvdg

1,537 posts

298 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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Get this fixed immediately! The original cars didn't have the open door button in the radio pod. You could nudge the button with your knee and the door popped open! I thought these were all changed under warranty. I think there was also a software upgrade to prevent this happening when on the move even if you pressed the button deliberately (that's why the window knob lights flash when you move - they indicate you can't open the door).

Another thing to check is you red emergency door handle - is that OK ?

Cheers,

Andy.

ghosty o''shark

Original Poster:

184 posts

275 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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It could be the emergency handle, the release buttons are by the stereo so it's not that. Or it could be the software. The strange thing is it was still on the catch and the door release buttons wouldn't work until I actually stopped the car to release it fully and close it again.
My knee was near the window switch, can this short the door?

whitey

2,508 posts

299 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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Sounds like your emergency handle cable is too tight and when the body of the car flex's or you hit a bump the door is released. Get your dealer to adjust it asap. Heard of this happening on a couple of other cars on the yahoo egroup.

Cheers
Whitey

whatever

2,174 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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There used to be a problem on the cerb where the magnet & (reed?) switch for sensing the door being closed/open was sometimes falsely triggered while progressing at speed in conjunction with a bit of a bump. There was, iirc, an adjustment then required to bring the two closer together.

I don't know if it's the same process on the Tuscan, but something else to consider.

tuscan''t

55 posts

284 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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Ahh, the magical self opening doors. My Tuscan has been doing this since I bought it (17 months) and to this date no fix has been found.

Mole Valley have talked to the person who was 'allegedly' responsible for the door design, who was apparently equally mystified.

Does your interior light come on and the door make the usual electrical motor clunk before it opens?

If so, then it sounds like the same problem as mine.

One way to prevent it happening until a fix is found is to always press the door locking button to the left of console. I've never experienced the problem when the locking button has been pressed.

My theory is that it is something to do with moisture in the wing mirror as it seems more prevalent after a wash/heavy rain.

>> Edited by tuscan''t on Monday 2nd December 20:17

charltm

2,102 posts

279 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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there's a door locking button? And I had been relying on carjacker ignorance of button location!

ghosty o''shark

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184 posts

275 months

Monday 2nd December 2002
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It does the full window drop, then the clunk. Its the first two times it has done it in the 2000 miles I have driven in it. I have driven in really heavy rain before and it's not done it then.
Very odd indded. I'll contact HH tomorrow and see what they say.

tuscan''t

55 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2002
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charltm said: there's a door locking button? And I had been relying on carjacker ignorance of button location!


Yeh, it's set at the back of the recess to the left of the steering console. It's a little round button made from black plastic, next to the manual immobiliser slot - when you press it and to confirm the doors are locked the two LEDs by the window opening switch light up green.

gflanagan

975 posts

268 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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Hello there. I just put my deposit on a demo Tuscan yesterday. One thing I noticed during the test drive was that the passenger side window winder LED flashed all the time (even when stationary). This is mentioned in the posting above. The other Tuscan I drove did not exhibit this and the LED only flashed when you are twirling the knob for the windows. Should these only flash when you you are fumbling (still need practice) to open the windy? Is it a case of replacing the switch?

lady topaz

3,855 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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shiiiiiiiiiiit guys you are worrying me now. Havent experienced this and really dont want to

andyvdg

1,537 posts

298 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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I think it depends how old the car / software is. I think (from memory) the lights flash when you are moving, and stop when you are stationary, indicating that the door can / cannot be opened. I'll have to check tonight to be sure.

If the lights don't flash when you are moving, either it has old software and you can open the doors whilst on the move - or it's newer than my car (2001) and they've turned the flashing off (some people thought it annoying).

Cheers,

Andy.

Nacnud

2,190 posts

284 months

Wednesday 5th March 2003
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I'm glad it chooses to do the drivers door as I don't often have a passenger. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it easily fixed?

High speed was definitely a factor in this similar incident

Duncan

52 posts

299 months

Thursday 6th March 2003
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I had this on mine for a while. The first time I jumped out of my skin. After that I realised that air pressure would keep the door pushed to until I pulled up. Forgot to tell a mate about the doors' habit though and he nearly shat himself when it happened to him. He was driving at the time and we were tearing up the A1 in France at about 150 trying to make a ferry!

I had the window encoder thingy replaced and it seemed to do the trick.

Duncan

bertie

8,567 posts

299 months

Thursday 6th March 2003
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I'd be better if the light went out when you were moving so you didn't have a very small disco going on in the corner of your eye as you drive along at night.

Or, thinking about it, why have a light at all? Do I really need to know if the door is available for opening?

ghosty o''shark

Original Poster:

184 posts

275 months

Thursday 6th March 2003
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The lights only come on when I open/close the window on my 2001 (Y) Tuscan.

When the door popped open it only de-coupled from the first latch, I believe there must be two as I couldn't push it open further than an inch. The release button wouldn't work until I stopped the car so I couldn't open the door to pull it closed, it was stuck in a middle place. I don't think there was any danger of the door swinging open though.

The garage that fixed it said the cable was too tight, whatever they did it has fixed the problem.

gflanagan

975 posts

268 months

Thursday 6th March 2003
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The car that I was test driving (and buying) was a June 2002 job. It was only the passenger side window LED that flashed all the time and not the driver's side (it only flashed when using the switch). The earlier 2001 car I also drove on Tue both LEDs only flashed when using the switches. Sounds like a fault on my car - the dealer has helpfully offered to disconnect it completely, but I'd rather it were fixed properly. Thing is, it sounds like they don't know how to fix it.

andyvdg

1,537 posts

298 months

Thursday 6th March 2003
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I think a non-flashing light indicates the the window encountered an obstacle before reaching it's end point. If it completes it's action successfully it flashes three times quickly. I think the obstacle is usually the roof, when the window stop point isn't adjusted quite right.

I've no idea how I know this. Is it in TFM ?

GaryF

975 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th March 2003
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Turns out the LED flashing all the time on the passenger side windy winder switch was down to a faulty encoder. Dealer has very helpfully replaced this and he says it has fixed the problem.

Course, he did point out to me on the phone that the driver's side is now doing it as well. Thought it was April fools day , but it isn't is it? They are going to relace that one as well before I collect my new car on Saturday. I'll spend some time checking all the electrics to make sure there are no other foibles. Its only 9 months old - anything else I should look for as it'll be a loooong way back to the dealer?

Gary.

mad-dot

341 posts

273 months

Wednesday 19th March 2003
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I've just had the same problem with my passenger door.I took off the chrome cover, and found the 2 allen bolts holding the catch were loose.Tighened them up......problem solved