RE: Chancellor to raise taxes
RE: Chancellor to raise taxes
Monday 19th March 2007

Chancellor to raise taxes

Revenue raising from performance cars


This Wednesday’s budget from Gordon Brown is expected to contain more bad news for performance car owners. Responding to the current wave of pressure from environmental lobbyists, it’s understood that the Chancellor will drastically increase the road tax charge for vehicles in the ‘G’ band - the highest tax band introduced last April – to at least £400 over the next two years.

Cough up now
Cough up now
The G band is for vehicles bought since April last year that produce over 225g/km of CO2 emissions. Although known as a tax against ‘Chelsea tractor’ SUVs in the popular media, the category also snares most sporting cars from the BMW 335i bracket and above. As an example, a current BMW M3 produces 287g/km, planting it firmly in the top category.

There are also expected to be rises across most of the other tax bands, although for many this will probably be limited to around £15. The very lowest tax bands are expected to receive reductions in charges, with the lowest band remaining free. No cars currently on sale fall into this category.

The Chancellor had been under pressure for far greater rises, with environmentalists campaigning for a road tax charge of £1,000 – or even £2,000 -for vehicles falling into the G band. Could things be about to get even worse?

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zletsgo

Original Poster:

1,622 posts

239 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Obviously no one saw the Great Global Warming Swindle the other day then....

Might help me though as I am keen to buy something like a Monaro/M3 - I will happily pay £400 a year if the prices tumble...

speedyellow

2,533 posts

250 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Classic narrow minded view... nothing taken into account the lifetime pollution value of the car (toyota Prius is a nightmare, cost to build, ship round the world and replacement batteries every 3 years...).

Fuel tax is to only fair way, the more you use the more you pay... very simple and takes into account the usage of the car....

This is just a way to raise more cash from us and is nothing to do with the environment!

gjwv6

18 posts

230 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Welcome everyone to RIPP OFF BRITAIN!!!

In this wonderful country, if you decide to work hard then you will be taxed, taxed and taxed again for good measures BUT if you are a lazy lay about, not wanting to work, no good waste of space then you will have an easy ride!!!

I wonder how long it will be before we have to pay tax on breathing???

silver993tt

9,064 posts

262 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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...and if i only drive 3000 miles a year???? Alot greener that a clapped our escort doing 15000 a year.

What complete nonsense, roll on a general election.

P7 TUS

6,794 posts

241 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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No surprise. Labour Scum furious

sprinter885

11,550 posts

250 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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zletsgo said:
Obviously no one saw the Great Global Warming Swindle the other day then....



Of course not -His Toniness was too busy rehearsing for his Comic Relief appearance so naturally his face wasn't bovvered !

joe_90

4,206 posts

254 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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P7 TUS said:
No surprise. Labour Scum furious


who would do what differently? as far as i see it any goverment will try and get as much cash as possible out of us..

Im not Labour.. prob more blue.. but please explain why the other parties would act differently?

braders

622 posts

232 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Like you say Grant if you work hard get the benifits IE nice car then you will get ripped of, never mind about the lazy B------ds runing around in claped out cars with no tax,mot,insurance thats ok ?

sprinter885

11,550 posts

250 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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joe_90 said:
P7 TUS said:
No surprise. Labour Scum furious


who would do what differently? as far as i see it any goverment will try and get as much cash as possible out of us..

Im not Labour.. prob more blue.. but please explain why the other parties would act differently?

true to a point. I'm afraid all Politicians see pollution/congestion/climate control as a great sop to the electorate to win votes. It's the ordinary people that need convincing otherwise - & the "anti-establishment/anti-capitalist" brigade who need shutting up. (comments reflected in the Gt Global Warming TV program)

madeinengland

290 posts

256 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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It's politics of envy I'm afraid. As most of these cars will be company cars it will mean price hikes to end customers which fuels inflation. If they are not Co cars then it's the poor old enthusiast who gets hit.
I wonder if Gordon has considered hitting other hobbies such as increasing the price of football matches, after all unecessary journeys cause climate change dont they?

Fire99

9,864 posts

252 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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joe_90 said:
P7 TUS said:
No surprise. Labour Scum furious


who would do what differently? as far as i see it any goverment will try and get as much cash as possible out of us..

Im not Labour.. prob more blue.. but please explain why the other parties would act differently?


I agree with what you say but Labour have had it too easy for the past number of years being able to impose effectively whatever law or tax without opposition.
Yes a different party may not be any better but we need to show that if we dont like their policies we vote them out..

Another term of Labour would be a real disaster for the UK IMO.

qube_TA

8,405 posts

268 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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It's a good status symbol, like having a large screen TV, driving a band 'G' car.

Even if they'd put tax up to a £million you'd still get the automatic instant statement from the greenies that 'these new measures don't go far enough'!





Edited by qube_TA on Monday 19th March 13:22

gjwv6

18 posts

230 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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You see braders, the trouble is that the police would have to put down the speed guns in order to deal with the no tax, insurance, mot lot and obvasly, at £60 a pop for every one who accidently goes over the limit they are not going to do that. Why go after 1 person who owes say £120 in car tax when they only need to catch 2 people speeding to bring in the same funds!! It all about £££!!

BUG4LIFE

2,442 posts

241 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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I bet I'll have to pay a bunch more for my Mk2 16v Golf GTi, hardly a bloody 2.5ton truck...I hate the government, they never do anything that make me think 'good idea'!!!

GlynMo

1,142 posts

272 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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I didn't see the tv programme, so maybe they mentioned - what is the point of the western world applying expensive measures to produce minimal CO2 reductions when China and India wipe out any annual benefits by opening new dirty power stations on a weekly basis??

It's about time the UK found some statesmen in politics to replace the shoddy, low rent attention-seekers that we're lumbered with.

climbs down off soap box

jwo

986 posts

272 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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and what will they do with the increased revenue? cerntainly won't make it's way back to alternative transport methods - rather bail out another labour cock up elsewhere!

YAHOO

341 posts

299 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Whats Global Warming , its F'ing freezing.
We need more gas guzzlers

bobd

973 posts

243 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Green issue my arse- tax revenue on the back of an easy excuse yes.
If you want to stop global warming stop buying goods from China- stop pacifying America and tax them both on imports. Thats a good idea then they will put a trade embargo on us.
The moral of this story is that we the British people are easy meat. If you work hard you are penalised. The aussies have just introduced total removal of filament bulbs from the market place. In a single policy decision removed more green house gas emmissions than us in 10 years.
People who live in outlying areas that need transport are always penalised by these total wankers. Tax City Dwellers more thats the answer.
I can envisage emmigration coming soon. This Country is run by Tossers.
Rant over.

madrob6

3,594 posts

243 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Am I missing something? Call me crazy but I wasn't aware that we could buy back the o-zone layer.

Money isn't the answer to everything (unless you work for the government perhaps).

pug boy

10 posts

258 months

Monday 19th March 2007
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Gordon - see you next Tuesday