156mph = 5 Months

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kjr

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793 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Car dealer's speeding 'record'

A car dealer caught driving at what is believed to be the highest speed ever recorded by Scottish police has been jailed for five months.

Jason McAllister was caught by police travelling at 156.7 mph in a BMW M3 on the A90 between Aberdeen and Dundee in March.

Sentencing him, Forfar Sheriff Kevin Veal described his speed as "absolutely outrageous".

McAllister, of Manor Avenue, Aberdeen, had admitted dangerous driving and driving while disqualified.

As well as the prison sentence, he was disqualified for four years and ordered to resit an extended test.

I understand it's the highest speed recorded by a speed detection unit by the Scottish police

Chris Macintosh, procurator fiscal
Procurator fiscal Chris Macintosh said a police patrol was told to be on the lookout for McAllister's vehicle.

Mr Macintosh said: "It was a BMW vehicle, it's a very powerful model.

"The vehicle was seen travelling at a very high speed."

Police clocked the vehicle several times and found he was doing 120.6mph in a 40mph zone and 156.7mph on the dual carriageway, which has a speed limit of 70mph.

Mr Macintosh said: "I understand it's the highest speed recorded by a speed detection unit by the Scottish police."

When stopped by police as he neared Dundee, McAllister said: "This is all that I need - I have just fallen out with the girlfriend."

Defence lawyer Lynne Bentley said: "He accepts there must be a custodial sentence.

'Absolutely crazy'

"It's his own car. Extremely stupidly he made the decision to drive."

Sheriff Veal told McAllister: "Anybody driving at this speed must realise that it's dangerous and inevitably a custodial option will be top of the priorities."

The sheriff said the fact that the accused had already been banned from driving reinforced his view.

Sheriff Veal said: "This level of speed is absolutely outrageous and poses a risk to every other road user."

Reacting to the case, Roger Vincent, of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA), said: "It was absolutely crazy for someone to try and drive at that speed on a public road.

"Anyone who has lost a relative in a crash caused by excessive speed would be horrified by the cavalier attitude of this driver."

alunr

1,672 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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156mph = like driving at 86mph through a housing estate...


>> Edited by alunr on Thursday 15th May 12:42

kjr

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793 posts

266 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Not if, as according to the report:

"Police clocked the vehicle several times and found he was doing 120.6mph in a 40mph zone and 156.7mph on the dual carriageway, which has a speed limit of 70mph. "

agent006

12,043 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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kjr said: Not if, as according to the report:

"Police clocked the vehicle several times and found he was doing 120.6mph in a 40mph zone and 156.7mph on the dual carriageway, which has a speed limit of 70mph. "



Deserved everythihng he gets/got.

robp

5,770 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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agent006 said:

kjr said: Not if, as according to the report:

"Police clocked the vehicle several times and found he was doing 120.6mph in a 40mph zone and 156.7mph on the dual carriageway, which has a speed limit of 70mph. "



Deserved everythihng he gets/got.


Yep!
The words "throw away the key" and "meet Barry, your new jailmate" spring to mind.

williamp

19,276 posts

274 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Agree. Far, far too fast. He deserved the custodial sentence.


Mind you, as my friend on a 944 forum pointed out,

Its interesting that the press concentrate on the speed aspect, rather then the driving while banned part..

joust

14,622 posts

260 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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I would imagine the 120 in a 40 did it for him - what an idiot .

J

toby tucker

648 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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I dont codone what this guy did - he was just plain stupid doing it while he was already banned.

However Scottish courts are notoriously severe on speeding drivers - from personal experience, I was caught speeding doing 115 MPH on an empty motorway (M74) early one saturday morning. I had a relatively clean license up until that point , and was charged /convicted of dangerous driving for no other than my speed. I was banned for 12 months and ordered to resit my test etc. Had I been caught doing the same speed around where I live in Wilts/Gloucs on the M4/M5 then I woukd have probably been facing a speeding charge ( not dangerous driving charge) , have received 3- 6 points on my license and a 21-56 day driving ban - the law is so inconsistent in this country.

CarZee

13,382 posts

268 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Dunno if you'd noticed, but Scotland isn't in this country

granville

18,764 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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No sympathy for the 120 in a 40 bit but if conditions were ok, 150+ on a dual carriageway really isn't that bad.

Frankly, it is daft but a custodial sentence were he not banned and/or without insurance and/or driving dangerously (other than 'going fast' per se) is quite ridiculous.

I wonder whether there's a difference in the eyes of our police advisors between an unrepentant nutter who charges on like this for 'ages,' as opposed to the quick blast for literally a few, fleeting seconds? (Which I suspect a number of posters on here have occasionally indulged therein.)

markoso

52 posts

281 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Yeah i think it is normal for Dumfries & Galloway, if you get caught doing 100 or more they will push for the Dangerous Driving charge.

markoso

52 posts

281 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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Sheriff Veal told McAllister: "Anybody driving at this speed must realise that it's dangerous and inevitably a custodial option will be top of the priorities."

Sheriff Veal said: "This level of speed is absolutely outrageous and poses a risk to every other road user."

Reacting to the case, Roger Vincent, of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA), said: "It was absolutely crazy for someone to try and drive at that speed on a public road.

"Anyone who has lost a relative in a crash caused by excessive speed would be horrified by the cavalier attitude of this driver."




And yet if happened to be in Germany rather than the UK it wouldn't even be an offence?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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Tail end of the report said :


Tayside Police Inspector Nick Hull said officers were astonished at the speed of McAllister's 3.2 litre vehicle.

He said: "We're not talking about someone who has allowed himself to slip just over the speed limit, we're talking about someone who had deliberately driven at 156 mph on a public road.

"The stopping distances at that sort of speed are around about a quarter of a mile, it's crazy."


If it's crazy, why does he let his traffic cars do it...........??

viper

10,005 posts

274 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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I say lock him up for longer one less nutter on the roads, 120 in a 40 is just plain crazy, he will probably be out in 3 anyway

PiB

1,199 posts

271 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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Then there's always this guy.

www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_779804.html

5 months in Jail! Come on, Germany, but true, please save it for the track days, others at risk that don't want to be.

beemer

369 posts

259 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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careful guys, I got called a "numpty T2K plant" on the other thread on this subject for suggesting that he deserved everything he got for the 120 in a 40....

cheers
sean

malman

2,258 posts

260 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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I'm surprised he hasn't tried to sue BMW, after all they are supposed to be limited to 155Mph. He might of been going down hill or maybe the speed gun wasn't accurate. Oh no a possible miscarriage of justice (not)

andysherratt

7,817 posts

283 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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I hadn't heard about the 120 in a 40 - that does change my view a little. The 156 on a dual carriageway is OK so long as there is no other traffic, and on the few occasions I have been on that road it is pretty quiet, although there must have been at least one patrol car.....

Five months for doing something in this country which is legal in another part of Europe cannot be fair however. Depends which was the main offence - the 120 or the 156

The DJ 27

2,666 posts

254 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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I agree with derestrictor. Deserves a longer sentence in my view for the 120 in a 40, but if the road was empty, he can see for a good long way and the road is dry, 156 on a dual carriageway aint that bad

tuscan_s

3,164 posts

274 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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I agree with it being deadlt in a 40mph zone but speeding on a clear, long, straight road is not bad as far as I'm concerned.

Speed does kill if some twat walks in front of your car or you pull a stupid stunt.

If speed kills then why aren't half the people on motorways dead yet?

INAPROPRIATE SPEED KILLS!