RE: Britain's Potholes Will Take 13 Years To Repair

RE: Britain's Potholes Will Take 13 Years To Repair

Thursday 30th April 2009

Britain's Potholes Will Take 13 Years To Repair

Potholes increase by one third throughout Britian



The number of potholes on British roads has increased by almost a third in the past sixth months, according to the Asphalt Industy Alliance (AIA).

Lastest figures show that there is a average of one pothole every 120 yards on our roads, which equates to an average of over 13,000 potholes per local authority area.

A total of 968,195 potholes were filled last year at a cost of around £65 per hole, with a total of £62.2m spent filling potholes. The total bill for the average local authority to fix all of its potholes in one go is estimated at a staggering £47m.

The AIA calculations show that the total cost to fix these potholes will cost in excess of £8.5bn and take over 13 years to remedy the problem in England. Their research also indicates that 74 per cent of councils in England believe the state of our roads is a threat to road safety.

However, that sentiment is not echoed by one parish council in Essex who believe that potholes act as “natural traffic calming” and actually improve road safety. Councilllors in Navestock  believe repairing the holes is too costly and will only allow motorists to drive faster.

The Government recently pledged £6bn in funding for road projects, but it is believed much of that money has already been allocated and will not go to repair the roads that were so badly damaged by this winter’s cold snap.

The findings by the AIA show the roads in England to be in a poor state of repair, but spare a thought for those people living in Wales, as the research indicates it would take around 15.6 years to repair their potholed roads.

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ginettajoe

Original Poster:

2,106 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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...... traffic calming speed humps take priority, obviously!! Safety is paramount!! When is common sense going to return to this namby pamby country, governed by fools totally detached from reality???

Collaudatore

1,055 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Article said:
Nearly 800,000 potholes were filled last year
Maybe so, but filling the pothole full of pi$$ or something equally long-lasting doesn't count (IMO)
(Rant over)

robert_raw

81 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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so, where does our road tax actually go?

jas16

378 posts

233 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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so how would the government/local councils feel if "we" took 13 years (almost 16 in Wales) to pay them road tax/ council tax?

robert_raw

81 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Thinking a bit more about this, surely this is really dangerous to have loads of pot holes especially to motorcyclists?

Does this mean that if i come of my bike due to a pot hole that i could sue the council?

If this is the case, would it not be cheaper to pay £65 to fill the hole than all the potential claims?

There are some majorly retarded people in highly important roles in these government agencies.

angus54

344 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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I'd ask why are these holes appearting in the first place.

Shoddy and oft unchecked raod laying me thinks.

Get the same company to come back and charge us again for their shoddy workmanship.

Parabola

1,849 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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robert_raw said:
Thinking a bit more about this, surely this is really dangerous to have loads of pot holes especially to motorcyclists?
I didn't realize quite how bad the roads in Manchester were until I started using an old Vespa scooter to get to work in the city centre.
A lot of the potholes you don't notice when you're in a car because they are in the centre of the lane.

It's terrifying hitting a 6" deep hole & thinking 'Is this going to send me over the handlebars?!'

PPPPPP

1,140 posts

232 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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If Mussolini was in charge, all the potholes would get filled very quickly. biggrin

How about each economic migrant is allocated 1 mile of road he has to maintain to perfection before he can work in this country? smile

Edited by PPPPPP on Thursday 30th April 14:49

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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13 years should be ok but assumes there will be no more appear in next 13 years, unlikely. Maybe all the benefit spongers who dont/wont work should fill in one each. Should be done in a couple of days

Edited by thegamekeeper on Thursday 30th April 13:58


Edited by thegamekeeper on Thursday 30th April 13:58

Dave^

7,395 posts

254 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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why not make dole dossers earn their 'benefits' filling these holes in?

it's not like there's a shortage of unemployed.....





damn, beaten to it....

Edited by Dave^ on Thursday 30th April 14:00

Edmundo2

1,352 posts

211 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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I sold my Elise because it became so unpleaseant having to drive it around West/North Yorks. The amount of unecessary red tarmac, white diagonil boxes, rumble strips, bumps, pointless signage etc..round here is incredible. The line marking paint manufacturers must be sat on a beach somewhere pissing themselves. They put speed bumps on roads already covered in potholes then when repairs are made it's a sticking plaster not a resurface.

Vintageseekers

107 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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The motorist has had the shirt taxed off him...

Where has it gone?

Traffic calming measures.....Red mist rising! Using cheap stone chippings doesn't work either, I had a big off on a motorbike where the rain had washed them down the road and then deposited themselves on the apex of a bend, V lucky to get away with that one!

Don't see this in France or Italia, never mind Germany

Not surprisingly you may have noticed that the Welsh & Scottish roads are considerably better than English roads too. Having driven and esp ridden motorbikes all over the British Isles and mainland europe the good old english roads are by far the very worst. and guess what - we pay the most tax.

angus54

344 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Parabola said:
robert_raw said:
Thinking a bit more about this, surely this is really dangerous to have loads of pot holes especially to motorcyclists?
I didn't realize quite how bad the roads in Manchester were until I started using an old Vespa scooter to get to work in the city centre.
A lot of the potholes you don't notice when you're in a car because they are in the centre of the lane.

It's terrifying hitting a 6" deep hole & thinking 'Is this going to send me over the handlebars?!'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8025954.stm

As bad as this???

Parabola

1,849 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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angus54 said:
Parabola said:
robert_raw said:
Thinking a bit more about this, surely this is really dangerous to have loads of pot holes especially to motorcyclists?
I didn't realize quite how bad the roads in Manchester were until I started using an old Vespa scooter to get to work in the city centre.
A lot of the potholes you don't notice when you're in a car because they are in the centre of the lane.

It's terrifying hitting a 6" deep hole & thinking 'Is this going to send me over the handlebars?!'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8025954.stm

As bad as this???
Heh heh - thats not far from my house! smile

angus54

344 posts

199 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Vintageseekers said:
The motorist has had the shirt taxed off him...

Where has it gone?

Traffic calming measures.....Red mist rising! Using cheap stone chippings doesn't work either, I had a big off on a motorbike where the rain had washed them down the road and then deposited themselves on the apex of a bend, V lucky to get away with that one!

Don't see this in France or Italia, never mind Germany

Not surprisingly you may have noticed that the Welsh & Scottish roads are considerably better than English roads too. Having driven and esp ridden motorbikes all over the British Isles and mainland europe the good old english roads are by far the very worst. and guess what - we pay the most tax.
You don't pay any more tax than anyone else road / council / income - its just that there are more of you.

This is what you mean surely?

astrsxi77

302 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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“natural traffic calming”

I'll remember that the next time I have to swerve across the road to avoid an oncoming crater that I couldn't see.

All goes to reinforce my view that many councils and local authorities are just anti-car for the sake of it. Wonder how many pieces of "road furniture" and traffic calming have been proposed, designed and implemented by non-driving civil servants.

Vintageseekers

107 posts

186 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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angus54 said:
Vintageseekers said:
The motorist has had the shirt taxed off him...

Where has it gone?

Traffic calming measures.....Red mist rising! Using cheap stone chippings doesn't work either, I had a big off on a motorbike where the rain had washed them down the road and then deposited themselves on the apex of a bend, V lucky to get away with that one!

Don't see this in France or Italia, never mind Germany

Not surprisingly you may have noticed that the Welsh & Scottish roads are considerably better than English roads too. Having driven and esp ridden motorbikes all over the British Isles and mainland europe the good old english roads are by far the very worst. and guess what - we pay the most tax.
You don't pay any more tax than anyone else road / council / income - its just that there are more of you.

This is what you mean surely?
No, no, no I was referring to Europeans, Nobody gets taxed like the Brits (apart from the Scandies) I'd be interested what the Scottish and welsh pay in other taxes e.g. Stamp duty, Council tax The Scots and Welsh have a much better quality of life and more disposable income than the English.

leon9191

752 posts

194 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Edmundo2 said:
I sold my Elise because it became so unpleaseant having to drive it
I got a cheap run around for the same reason, driving my impreza (admittedly it has got coil overs all round for track use)was an exercise in endurance, 10 mins to the shops and I was sick of my life.

Kenny-Mack

197 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Vintageseekers said:
angus54 said:
Vintageseekers said:
The motorist has had the shirt taxed off him...

Where has it gone?

Traffic calming measures.....Red mist rising! Using cheap stone chippings doesn't work either, I had a big off on a motorbike where the rain had washed them down the road and then deposited themselves on the apex of a bend, V lucky to get away with that one!

Don't see this in France or Italia, never mind Germany

Not surprisingly you may have noticed that the Welsh & Scottish roads are considerably better than English roads too. Having driven and esp ridden motorbikes all over the British Isles and mainland europe the good old english roads are by far the very worst. and guess what - we pay the most tax.
You don't pay any more tax than anyone else road / council / income - its just that there are more of you.

This is what you mean surely?
No, no, no I was referring to Europeans, Nobody gets taxed like the Brits (apart from the Scandies) I'd be interested what the Scottish and welsh pay in other taxes e.g. Stamp duty, Council tax The Scots and Welsh have a much better quality of life and more disposable income than the English.
the scots are no more better off believe me, in fact i noted the comment about the roads in scotland being better - where are you getting that from? ... the government figures showed the worst roads in the country are in scotland (Ayrshire in particular...where i lived until a year ago) Also in the poll of the most dangerous roads i believe the top ones are in scotland also. And there was a survey i think it showed up in PH news last year the M8 junctions in glasgow was near the top of things motorists fear the most!

And again where are you getting it from that the scots have more disposible income than those south of the border, the only way the scots save money over the english is the house prices are generally a little lower, we pay the same overpriced petrol prices, the same gas and electic companies money and as far, road tax costs the same and yet none of the money goes on roads ... think you have a bit of the grass is greener on the other side going on.

I love scotland - i just hate being taxed to death and i hate even more that you think we're not being taxed to death, i only wish your statement was true!

Baked_bean

1,908 posts

193 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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I swear that 15,000 of those potholes are in southampton.