RE: PH exclusive: Bugatti Veyron photos

RE: PH exclusive: Bugatti Veyron photos

Tuesday 24th May 2005

PH exclusive: Bugatti Veyron photos

PH scoops early pics of 1000bhp monster


Bugatti Veyron undergoing final testing
Bugatti Veyron undergoing final testing

PistonHeads has scooped these exclusive pictures of the Bugatti Veyron. This astonishing 1,000bhp car has had a difficult birth.

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Designed to be the world's fastest road car with a top speed of 252mph and a 1,000bhp engine to make it so, it has undergone a seriously troublesome development process. Much of the problem has revolved around squaring the circle of huge amounts of power generating huge amounts of heat -- and how to get rid of it while not adding too much to the drag co-efficient, which then demands more power to overcome it.

Other issues the company has had to overcome include the unavailability of road tyres to suit such a high top speed, and stability and durability problems. And that's before anyone asks non-technical questions such as "Why?" -- to which the answer has to be, in Dylan's words, "Just because".

Many thanks to Sebastian Giesler for the images.

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joe_90

Original Poster:

4,206 posts

246 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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is it just me or do the front wheels just not look right? They just seem too small.

However, i obviouly would not say no..

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Ahhh. The indomitable human spirit that is embodied in this car. It is, of course, utterly without point. And this is exactly the reason why they did it.

Quite superb.

The Surveyor

7,607 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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The rear wing look awsome, but sure how long it would last at 252mph when it appears to be fixed on with gaffa tape!!!

I also would not say no...

granville

18,764 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Don said:
Ahhh. The indomitable human spirit that is embodied in this car. It is, of course, utterly without point. And this is exactly the reason why they did it.

Quite superb.


Ulysses McBingo has entered the building.

dinkel

27,457 posts

273 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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For that money I would buy something completely different.

Everyone knows you are driving in a monster designed to be the fastest . . .

I like the tape . . . gives it a human touch. Wing comes out at speed

Nice to see this thingy driving and near to production . . .

lap_time

339 posts

242 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Whats the bet this thing never actually makes it into production? And even if it does, it probably won't reach its claimed 250mph top speed. I'd buy a used F40 if I had the money. Or a Hamann twin turbo 355, or a Koeniggsegg CCR, or, or,or...

sjp63

1,997 posts

287 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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What an ugly object, lacking in pedigree. Hopeless case

apache

39,731 posts

299 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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sjp63 said:
What an ugly object, lacking in pedigree. Hopeless case



A Bugatti, lacking in pedigree? surely not

alanc5

295 posts

258 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Surely if they can wring 1000+ BHP out of a Skyline it shouldn't be that much trouble for a car actually designed to accomodate that kind of power?

Plus, it looks like a big fat heffer, I much prefer the slimline look of the Enzo.

ultimasimon

9,646 posts

273 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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alanc5 said:
Surely if they can wring 1000+ BHP out of a Skyline it shouldn't be that much trouble for a car actually designed to accomodate that kind of power?

Plus, it looks like a big fat heffer, I much prefer the slimline look of the Enzo.


"The Bugatti Heffer"

BeVo

20 posts

244 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Cant wait to read the reviews . . .and see some journo rag it round a track. looks pretty small for what it is meant to be

dinkel

27,457 posts

273 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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BeVo said:
Looks pretty small for what it is meant to be


It looks Murcilago in size . . .

Mr Whippy

31,127 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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alanc5 said:
Surely if they can wring 1000+ BHP out of a Skyline it shouldn't be that much trouble for a car actually designed to accomodate that kind of power?

Plus, it looks like a big fat heffer, I much prefer the slimline look of the Enzo.


But anyone can make a 1000bhp skyline that needs a rebuild every 5000miles.

Even PFF Porsche tuners admit to their 700bhp engine conversion for the 911 Turbo not lasting too long.


The Veyron has undergone all the tests any other VAG car undergoes, winter and extreme low temp running, extreme high temp running, arduous conditions testing and long service intervals etc.
So it has 1000bhp, but it won't melt if you get stuck in traffic or need 1000 mile services or engine re-builds everyday.
It should be as handy as owning a Murcielago really.

Amazing piece of engineering, glad they've done it just to show the other supercar makers how so much can be put into so little.
Compact, reliable, everyday 1000bhp, 4wd, comfortable supercar.

Price to match though

Dave

zaktoo

1,401 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Very close to Murcie size - kind of in-between Murcielago & F430. It has a longer wheelbase than eithe though, but with an estimated kerb weight of 1600kg is between these 2 in just about every physical aspect:
www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/comp/?id=91300&id=87791&id=121000

Ciao

Zak

nickjm

361 posts

245 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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Hmmm, just not sure about the black rectangle stuck in the middle of the side window.



>> Edited by nickjm on Tuesday 24th May 12:37

zaktoo

1,401 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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A few rambling thoughts on this Bugatti...

I'd liked to have seen a different approach to the embodiment of what a modern Bugatti should be. Brute-force, ultimate-straight-line-speed-focused uber-car is not quite what I think Ettore Bugatti would have been aiming at.

I'd like to think he'd have been going for something along the lines of a brilliant track car, designed to be quickest through the corners and achieve the best possible lap time, whilst cosseting its pilot to a reasonable degree. I'd imagine that the goals would be along the lines of better than Elise (maybe even better than Radical - but not sure you could actually achieve that without serious luxury sacrifices) handling with greater comfort than a Mercedes-Benz.

Whatever my thoughts on the divergences from Bugatti's possible goals for a 21st century Bug, this car will still be quite an achievement when it launches. And launch it will, of that I'm certain.

Ciao

Zak

PS Actuallly, I think Gordon Murray might just have built the closest thing to what Bugatti would have wanted - the McLaren F1 seems to me to be close to all the ideals Bugatti held...

dunno

59 posts

287 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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You'd be lucky to get a 1000 miles out of a 4.0ltr TVR Tuscan engine before it needed a rebuild LMAO...

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

268 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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The thing that makes me laugh about this and the Enzo is they weigh so much! 1500kgs + in the case of the Enzo and 1600kgs in the case of this the "very expensive and utterly useless ex Man Utd and Chelsea midfielder"

As both this and the Enzo are made from carbon fibre where does all the weight come from?

dunno

59 posts

287 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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The fat wallet stuffed into the back pocket of the drivers trousers of course!

granville

18,764 posts

276 months

Tuesday 24th May 2005
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What's this obsession with 'less is more?' Bugatti, the people who brought the world the Royale, are no claimants to the Gordon Murray cum Colin Chapman crown of ultimate lightness specialists.

It's a brutal statement of Germanic-ownership excess, yes but that is merely a Saxon tradition no less great or worthy than any number of relatively svelte Italian counterparts and I suspect it's detractors might think otherwise granted sufficient exposure to the thing.

Anybody in a position to buy one of these will already own lesser, more ubiquitous exotics.

It is quite literally a masterpiece.