4.2 - 4.5 Much difference?
4.2 - 4.5 Much difference?
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ChelseaTractor

Original Poster:

761 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Sorry Chaps, this may be a numpty question but I need some advice.

I am ready to buy my first Tiv . I'm going straight for the kill and looking for a Cerb.
I had convinced myself that I wanted a 4.5, don't know why, just for the badge I spose???
The thing is, most of the ones i've seen in the classifieds that I like, right price, colour etc seem to be 4.2s.

I've been told that servicing costs are about the same so thats not the issue, so am I just being a tit wanting the Daddy?

Why did you chose what you have?

Cheers


Jon-E-Boy

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Difference is negligible IMHO.

Buy the best you can afford within the engine type you want. Dont get hung up on displacement and performance...

ChelseaTractor

Original Poster:

761 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Thats just it, I can't find what I want with a 4.5 in it but there are some cracking looking 4.2s out there.

Cheers for the quick responce BTW!


Jon-E-Boy

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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By engine type I meant V8 or Straight Six.

Performance will be but a fag paper apart between the 4.2 and 4.5

Condition, condition, condition...

rjben

917 posts

304 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Yep, I'll second that.

I did not care if it was a 4.2 or a 4.5. It came down to price, spec (LW lights and 18 spiders) and condition.

jonny tvr

4,548 posts

303 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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4.5 has larger brakes as well and purple tubes!

shadowninja

79,230 posts

304 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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rjben said:
Yep, I'll second that.

I did not care if it was a 4.2 or a 4.5. It came down to price, spec (LW lights and 18 spiders) and condition.


says you having bought the 4.5 LW!

Big T

1,337 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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If I was to go and buy another Cerb, it would either be a well sorted 99/00 4.2 with new lights and spiders or go the whole hog and buy a 4.5 RR (get the factory to Dyno it first) with a CRG & Nitrons too.

I would not pay more for a standard 4.5 when there isn't much noticeable performance difference over a standard 4.2.

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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As others have said, not much difference really and I didn't even take it into consideration when looking for mine.

There is one thing that really matters though! Blue cerbs are substantially slower than any other variant.

Julian64

14,325 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Be careful because as you have seen from the paper 4.2's resale is definitely less. True or false regarding performance, the 4.5 will always be the most sought after.

And yes I own a 2000 4.5LW

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Trooper,

I see you have a fairly early one.

Has it been fairly well behaved since you have owned it?

guydw

1,651 posts

305 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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people who have 4.2s will say theirs are better, and that there is no difference in performance.

people who own 4.5s will say that theirs are superior, and why have second best.

I don't know the truth, but I do know I own a 4.5 !

I have to admit that it's spent over a week waiting for a new clutch slave cylinder....)

trooper1212

9,457 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Plotloss said:
Trooper,

I see you have a fairly early one.

Has it been fairly well behaved since you have owned it?


Heh! Yes and no...

It needed a fair amount of work when I first bought it to get it up to scratch, and the first couple of months I used up my RAC callout quota for the year.

Since then it's been pretty solid, I've done almost 8000 miles in 6 months and if we forget the first few hiccups, it's only needed jumping a couple of times and the exhaust is blowing at the moment, but other than that it's sound as a pound.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Smart!

Thanks for that...

SXS 

2,068 posts

262 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Bottom line... a few little extras on the 4.5 make it a top-of-the-line cerbera, but....

on performance side,

the 4.2 responds quicker, the engine sounds a little louder.... more music....

but the 4.5 does excel when you shift one the way its supposed to be shifted.... someone who knows how to drive these babies on the limits of revs... will pull around 1-2 second better times on a sorted 4.5 than a sorted 4.2....

If you're after the best, I'd recommend a 4.5 anyday, but if you're after a TVR Cerbera... the 4.2 is a cracking bargain and the spare cash left over can be used to upgrade the wheels and maybe even switch the badge on the rear if it takes your fancy

kojak69

4,547 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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If you have seen some cracking 4.2, then go for one. The 4.5's very rarely gives out the claimed 420bhp, and the cars vary quite a lot. The 4.2's are more consistant from car to car with regards to the 360bhp quoted. Most I would guess are around the 340/350 mark.

As I said at the beginning; go for a 4.2 that you are happy with, and money saved can go towards upgrades etc..

darreni

4,321 posts

292 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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[quote=SXS ] will pull around 1-2 second better times on a sorted 4.5 than a sorted 4.2....

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Better times at what? lapping the ring, lapping tescos car park? measured with what? Sorry but you can't get away with such a generalisation.

ChelseaTractor

Original Poster:

761 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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Fellas', some good advice thanks .

I will heed what has been said and go for the best one I can find, condition, as has been said seems to be the thing to watch.
Spiders are top of my list, as is Blue paint and if it's got LW lights even better. (Watch out DJ, I might bring the money to Le Mans!)

Whatever I get it'll have this on it which was bought for me by my Ho yesterday!

J5 5ERB

I knew building her a new bedroom had it's upsides!!!!

I'll let you know.


Jon-E-Boy

Byff

4,427 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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I've had a 4.5 and a 4.2 and can honestly say, you can't tell the difference between them while driving on the road.

The extra power doesn't become noticable until after 140mph, but ask yourself - how many times will you do that sort of speed? Even on a track, you'll be lucky to get a straight long enough.

Your best option is to choose your ideal colour and interior combination, then any optionals like spiders, afterburners etc. then buy the first one that comes along*. If it's a 4.5, then to can brag at the bar about your superior engine. If its a 4.2, then you will still have a cracking car and you'll have paid a couple of grand less.

*buying the first one that comes along, presuming it's been looked after, checked out etc etc.

_DJ_

5,047 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2004
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ChelseaTractor said:

Spiders are top of my list, as is Blue paint and if it's got LW lights even better. (Watch out DJ, I might bring the money to Le Mans!)



Well, I'm not sure I'll enjoy hitchhiking back. Especially as we'll have just beat the French at footy

Edited to say: If you want a passenger ride, it'll be in the area for a while (near Heathrow) - no hassle etc!



>> Edited by _DJ_ on Wednesday 2nd June 15:02