V8 Sump Drain Plug(s)

[TVdinneR]

Hi All,
Quick query.
About to drain the oil, but according to the workshop manual there are 2 plugs due to the sump being divided into 2 canals, re:


Appears my sump is different and only one drain plug obvious, re:


The question is:
Before I go ripping it all apart looking for the other plug, is there actually a second one on this sump?

[anonymous-user]

Hey mate,

Looks like you have the same sump as mine (97 4.5 GT spec using 4.2 block) and it only has one sump plug.

Be careful not to strip the thread as a previous indy had done to mine.

Edited by djstevec on Saturday 7th April 15:05

[TVdinneR]

djstevec said:

Hey mate,

Looks like you have the same sump as mine (97 4.5 GT spec using 4.2 block) and it only one sump plug.

Be careful not to strip the thread as a previous indy had done to mine.

Thanks for the quick reply.
Thats interesting.
It is a 1999 4.2 car, but hey, you know TVR

Will take care replacing the plug.
Cheers mate.

[scotty_d]

TVdinneR said:

djstevec said:

Hey mate,

Looks like you have the same sump as mine (97 4.5 GT spec using 4.2 block) and it only one sump plug.

Be careful not to strip the thread as a previous indy had done to mine.

Thanks for the quick reply.
Thats interesting.
It is a 1999 4.2 car, but hey, you know TVR

Will take care replacing the plug.
Cheers mate.

same as my 99 4.2 and some clown did the same to my sump plug too and it has been heli coiled now .

And remember to have the new oil filter to hand pre filled when changing that out as well and do it ASAP as not to drain the pump down as it is a pig to prime apparently.

Scotty

[pmessling]

How do you go about priming the pump, i'm removing all the hoses to replace when i fit my oil stat?

[TVdinneR]

scotty_d said:

same as my 99 4.2 and some clown did the same to my sump plug too and it has been heli coiled now .

And remember to have the new oil filter to hand pre filled when changing that out as well and do it ASAP as not to drain the pump down as it is a pig to prime apparently.

Scotty

Yeh, had the new filter already full and swapped them over straight away.
By the way, can anyone spot the deliberate mistake from the pic of my sump ??

[Tang Soo Tim]

Is the plate in wrong place ? You can't see my oil filter with plate on ...... Or is it something else ?

[TVdinneR]

Tang Soo Tim said:

Is the plate in wrong place ? You can't see my oil filter with plate on ...... Or is it something else ?

Give that man a coconut.
Exactly right, and here is a wee pic of the plate.

You can see the marks along the bottom where it has been rubbing on the sump.
Dont know how long its been like that.
Certainly since last October when I got the car.
Anyway, its going on the correct way now.
Also took the opportunity to replace the oil pressure relief spring.

Thats the new one on the left.
Not that I was having any real concerns over the pressure.
50 psi cold and 40 psi hot idle running on Millers 10w-60 synthetic.
Am going to try, as per TVR Power recommendation, semi-synthetic 10w-40.
This is what I have documented from Power in the past when they did work on the engine prior to my ownership.
Be interesting to see how the pressure is affected.
Possibly leaving myself open to criticism here, but have just picked up 8 litres of Gulf Tec Plus semi-synthetic 10w-40 from "Home Bargains" for £19.98.

Edited by TVdinneR on Saturday 7th April 19:54

[TVdinneR]

Well, always a wee bit concerned when there`s such an immediate marked difference between before and after.
As previously mentioned, oil pressure at stone cold hit 50 on idle, never dropping lower than 40 on hot idle.
I haven`t yet warmed it up completely as I`m still getting the oil level set but on initial start up the oil pressure rose to 80 on cold idle.
First time I`ve seen it anywhere near that.
Be interesting to see what it now drops to when hot.
From these figures, any immediate cause for concern ?

[spongy]

mine has always run at between 60-70 on cold tickover......60 when warm or hot running....40 ish on very hot tickover.im running 10/60 fully synthetic.going to do my spring soon as it has been in a while

[scotty_d]

spongy said:

mine has always run at between 60-70 on cold tickover......60 when warm or hot running....40 ish on very hot tickover.im running 10/60 fully synthetic.going to do my spring soon as it has been in a while

Mine sits at the same using Fuch's Pro 10-50 And i just did the spring as well.

[Tang Soo Tim]

[quote=TVdinneR]
Give that man a coconut.




Got mine off at the min doing bottom coolant pipe so easy spot for me
Was your plate covered with thick grit and oil on top ? From the road obviously but mine was in a right state !! Makes me wonder how long since oil filter was changed .....

Where is this relief spring ? Seen couple comments lately about people changing it !

[spongy]

lol my whole undercarriage is covered in oli...think that is why main chassis is not rotten

[TVdinneR]

Tang Soo Tim]VdinneR said:

Give that man a coconut.




Got mine off at the min doing bottom coolant pipe so easy spot for me
Was your plate covered with thick grit and oil on top ? From the road obviously but mine was in a right state !! Makes me wonder how long since oil filter was changed .....

Where is this relief spring ? Seen couple comments lately about people changing it !

The relief spring is in behind a 24mm (I think) plug on the front drivers side.
I didnt have a 24mm spanner handy but the adjustables got it no problem.
Have painted it white in the pic to make it a little easier to highlight.
Notice the plate now on the right way round.
Also the marks on the sump where the plate had been rubbing.


As far as the plate goes, it wasnt covered in much muck at all.
A wipe with a cloth and a bit of wd40(or similar) and it was nice and clean.

[pmessling]

Might as well ask again,

How do you go about priming the oil pump if the engine is completely empty of oil?

[scotty_d]

Not sure on the AJP pump but on the rv8 you packed it with vasoline to get it going to pick up.

[spongy]

same on the ajp i think,pretty much the same on all v8s i think....how would he pack the oil pump in car,i think this method is done on assembly.

[ukkid35]

Pull the fuel pump fuse and let the starter motor run until you see oil pressure.

[pmessling]

I thought that would be another option

[Tang Soo Tim]

Cheers for that I've been wandering where it was ! Here is pic of my plate just after removal



My car was suppose to have had a full service by a main dealer 500 miles ago ...... They either don't bother cleaning it or it hasn't been removed and the oil filter wasn't replaced

The bolts don't look like they have been removed in a long time !!!!!

It's now clean and shiny and ready to go back on with new bolts