Strength of AJP
Strength of AJP
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UKBoB

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

291 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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How strong is the AJP V8? (and out of curiosity is the 4.2 any different from the 4.5?)

Dealer said the engine was a massively strong engine. Im aware of mild wasp-like buzzing pang of concern somewhere in the back of my head when I push the car hard, given that it revs a lot higher than the Rover V8, dont want to damage it kinda feeling.

Where should the redline be on a 4.5. Ive either been hanging on for dear life, or had windows wide open (never shut them, not even in the snow tonight and havnt yet heard the changeup beep/light, so am not sure where it is.

pablo81

96 posts

257 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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change up light on the 4.5 is in the little unlit box at the bottom of the rev counter. read handbook all limits and arrows pointing to light are in there. hope that helps somewhat

pablo81

96 posts

257 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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forgot to add not much louder than indicator noise

david smith

716 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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im hoping my 4.2 is hugely strong 54 k so far ...
my change light does go couldnt tell you when as Im too busy keeping her on the road and hanging on ...

DAS

jacko996

36 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Anyone know if it will kill the engine, taking it to the change light fairly often.

dannylt

1,906 posts

310 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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It won't kill it, but it might wear it out a bit more... but so what? It's a sports car Just make sure it's warmed up nicely before revving to avoid most of the wear.

I think the revlimiter is around 7500. The engine is strong, as in it doesn't often throw rods out the side. It's more likely to wear out. The most likely thing to blow it up is over revving on a down change I imagine.

UKBoB

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

291 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Handbook says revs should never be above 7000, and there is a volume adjustment switch which 'only your dealer should adjust'

davetherave1970

2,144 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Had my change light come on twice! Both times in 3rd. I like 3rd
I also had my buzzer turned down but not because of the "change" warning but due to the indicator noise. Can't hear it now when the "change" is due, i just see the light!

redleicester

6,869 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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Don't forget that not all the cars are fitted with a limiter at all..... like mine..... It'll rev forever, and break your heart (and your wallet) if you're not careful.

jellie

35 posts

259 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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i thought the buzzer and change up light was the target

dannylt

1,906 posts

310 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2005
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UKBoB said:
Handbook says revs should never be above 7000, and there is a volume adjustment switch which 'only your dealer should adjust'
Really? My car had peak power over 7200 so would seem odd!

martyn-s1

66 posts

274 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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Change up for the 4.2 is at 7000 and for the 4.5 is 7500 IIRC.

methodwares

583 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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martyn-s1 said:
Change up for the 4.2 is at 7000 and for the 4.5 is 7500 IIRC.


i was told by the test drive dude that my 4.5 shift warning was 7400 with the limiter hitting at 7600

Tam Lin

694 posts

279 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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martyn-s1 said:
Change up for the 4.2 is at 7000 and for the 4.5 is 7500 IIRC.


My 4.2 pings (as in beep behind steering wheel, rather than piston meets valve) at around 7250 indicated, though God only knows what that is in actual crank speed...

TVR-Phoenix

719 posts

256 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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The max rev limit is a funny one, not every cerbera is the same, which I'm sure many have found... either its a dodgy tach or just a unique job each time...

grahamdance

464 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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Tam Lin said:
though God only knows what that is in actual crank speed...

Off the top of my head:

v=Wr where v = linear velocity, W (omega) = radial speed and r = radius

W = 7,250rpm = 759.2 radians/second (multiply by 2pi and divide by 60)

From Google the stroke of a 4.5 is 86mm which means r = 43mm = 0.043m

So v = 759.2 x 0.043 = 32.6 meters/second (or 1.216mph in real money)

.... although I could be wrong

CerbyT

404 posts

272 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2005
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I think the buzzer used to go off around 7000 or so in mine. Never looked in to see the light as I was normaly arriving at the braking zone on a sprint circuit at that point looking like this

mattclubb

7 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th February 2005
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I can vouch that my 4.2 V8 isn't that strong, admitadely its a 1996 but its only done 40k.
Head bolt went the other week when not pushing the engine at all, I've never dared go anywhere near 7000rpm.
TVR said they've seen them go before but they want to rebuild the engine to a certain point just incase there is anything major wrong with it. And if there is then I'll have a 4.5 instead because they don't have the old parts anymore!


Anyone else seen this before?

Captain Beaky

1,389 posts

310 months

Thursday 24th February 2005
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grahamdance said:

Off the top of my head:

v=Wr where v = linear velocity, W (omega) = radial speed and r = radius

W = 7,250rpm = 759.2 radians/second (multiply by 2pi and divide by 60)

From Google the stroke of a 4.5 is 86mm which means r = 43mm = 0.043m

So v = 759.2 x 0.043 = 32.6 meters/second (or 1.216mph in real money)

.... although I could be wrong


It's 72.9241 mph. Looks like factor of 60 got lost somewhere.

I can't imagine a crank moving at 1mph is going to break anything much, unless it's on a steam roller.

dannylt

1,906 posts

310 months

Thursday 24th February 2005
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You mean around 75 km/h, not mph. Besides, that's mean piston speed - the crank speed is still 7250

danny