RE: TVR Phoenix project arises

RE: TVR Phoenix project arises

Tuesday 4th July 2006

TVR Phoenix project arises

Check the 1,000bhp Cerbera at the FoS


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Project Phoenix
Project Phoenix

If you ever thought that the TVR Cerbera was under-powered, read this story of one owner who thought so too.

The Phoenix, a two-year-long controversial project much discussed on PistonHeads' forums in recent years, is finally becoming reality. The project has been extremely ambitious from the first day the owner, PHer SXS (Mo Ash), put his dream down on paper – a TVR pushing out over 1,000bhp as a road-legal daily ride and drag-racing monster.

Fast and furious, the car's pretty quick as standard. Immense acceleration comes from TVR’s own engine -- a flatplane 4.5-litre SOHC 16v V8 producing in excess of 400bhp -- mounted in a lightweight spaceframe tubular chassis clothed in hand-laid glassfibre and hand-stitched four-seat interior. The car quite easily tops 180mph.

But this wasn't enough for the owner of this Cerbera, which was destined to become the Phoenix. So he harnessed the know-how of Austec Racing and starting changing things...

Engine

The engine has been stroked and bored from 4.5-litres to six litres -- and will be supercharged. The heads have been raised nearly two inches to accommodate the longer stroke using billet heat-treated plates with custom water-channels, and the compression ratio configured at 8:1.

The engine has practically been rebuilt. It includes custom designed and built conrods from Carrillo and pistons from JE, a heavily modified block -- it's now symmetrical where once the block extended to the side to hold the pump assembly -- and Nikasil liners. The bottom end has been modified to hold four-bolt and crossbolted main-caps CNC’d from a raw billet of high-content nickel-aluminium bronze -- and there's a custom-built steel crankshaft. A six-stage dry-sump oil system akin to those used in Nascar racers -- the pump is second to none -- was made by Weiss Racing. And, at the top, the heads have been ported and strengthened. Electric steering and water-cooling are added extras.

A centrifugal supercharger supplies the forced induction with a maximum boost of 38psi, although in this application it will be set at 28psi. For just that extra tiuckle of boost, it also boasts NOS induction intake cooling and dual-stage methanol/alcohol injection as well as a charge-cooled intake system. Shovelling fuel into this hungry beast will be achieved utilising a 16-injector dual stage fuel system, fired by a race-specification ignition system using a high-power coil and reserve coil per cylinder.

Body and transmission

The drivetrain utilises a six-speed manual ZF box, mated to custom developed driveshafts and propshaft, yoked to a custom developed Sean Hyland 8.5-inch differential designed to handle at least 800lb-ft. The owner has plans for a custom automatic transmission available for drag-racing along with drag-racing wheels and shocks. No concerns here then.

The contracted bodyshop CS/CDT has taken pains to develop the new body for increased rigidity and aerodynamics. As the pictures show, this is not a body-kit, the body was hand-shaped using techniques employed in high-speed lightweight race-boat building to meet the owner's stringent design requirements -- scribbled on a dozen A4 sheets of paper.

The 19-inch wheels were custom made by an American company using T6 forged mil-spec aluminium, strong and extremely light. The tyres for road use are made by Bridgestone in the size 345 wide rear and 295 wide front.

Current status

  • Body development complete
  • Engine development complete
  • Engine build in progress
  • Engine on dyno testing very soon

Ash estimates the final numbers will look like this:

  • 250mph+ (drivetrain configured for 276mph max)
  • Weight @ 900kg excluding driver
  • In excess of 1,000bhp (initially to start at low boost and progressively wind up boost + NOS and meth injection as engine goes through its dyno-testing)

So there we have it, soon, very soon, the TVR Phoenix will be on our roads for all to see and hear. And how will the power get to the tarmac? Ash said: “We’ll make it work. Austec Racing will make this dream a reality even if it means re-writing the books.”

When the owner was asked if he had any questions for us, he replied “What colour should she be?”

The next news release will be a detailed pictorial of the engine and internals – read it first only here on Pistonheads!

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Mr Freefall

Original Poster:

2,323 posts

259 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Good new's release Ash, hope to see the beast in the flesh soon.


Mr F

Edited by Mr Freefall on Tuesday 4th July 09:55

TJW

3,848 posts

248 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Looks very nice, looks like the roof is the only original body panel? Very Speed12'y at the front.

4WD

2,289 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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The styling of the wheels and square side vents is very American. I wonder how the engine will cope? Good luck with it all.

TJW

3,848 posts

248 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Ash, is you wearing a 'wife beater' top there?



Edited by TJW on Tuesday 4th July 10:08

Touching Cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Looks good to me, I know some people had advance pics but these are the first I have seen.
Very pleasantly surpised, definitely still a Cerb so

Now when can we come see (and hear?) it in the flesh....... oh and what colour is it going to be then

dinkel

26,966 posts

259 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Make it a White Lightning just plain and simple . . . this could be an overstatement in spacepurple whatever . . .

An engine-bay shot please? And a pretty soundbyte to start with. The engine is in isn't it?

:thumbsup:

gazzab

21,109 posts

283 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Uh? The title mentions 'FoS' - is it at Goodwood this weekend?

Touching Cloth

11,706 posts

240 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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gazzab said:
Uh? The title mentions 'FoS' - is it at Goodwood this weekend?



Blimey yes I missed that, is that for real???? If so I am assuming a rolling chassis only

(Did you get me mail Gaz?)

morebeanz

3,283 posts

237 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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It is absolutely fantastic to see the beast finally emerge after so much blood, sweat and tears. I feel like I've been on the roller-coaster ride with this from a distance, so god knows how Ash has survived it!

Ash - I know it's been a long time coming, but your passion and perceverence is wining out! Good on you, mate, and I can't wait to see it in all it's rumbling glory!

Briefträger

28 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Is that the old Carisma cerbie?, looks dodgy enough for it, how many speakers and dvd players has it?

gazzab

21,109 posts

283 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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[quote=Briefträger]Is that the old Carisma cerbie?, looks dodgy enough for it, how many speakers and dvd players has it?[/quote]
Below the belt !!

Steve_T

6,356 posts

273 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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[quote=Briefträger]Is that the old Carisma cerbie?, looks dodgy enough for it, how many speakers and dvd players has it?[/quote]

Quite spooky you're from Salisbury no?

ridds

8,230 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Ahhh god damn it wish I was going to FoS now.

Will reserve judgement ont eh looks till seeing it in the flesh as pics can;t ever really do something like that justice.

How has it acheived 900 kg with the additional engine structure, charger and all that extra fibre glass?

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Ash - restrained (no honestly) - just this side of too Bling (has to be a certain Bling OBVIOUSLY!)

900kg! - can't see how that is possible, knowing as I do with racers how hard it is to get weight out and they are much smaller than a Cerb!

Edited by jellison on Tuesday 4th July 11:19

Steve_T

6,356 posts

273 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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I guess it depends what the body is made of and the thickness etc.

paulie-mafia

3,321 posts

224 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Looks like a monster! Looking forward to seeing it being driven in anger, although surely it needs a big bookshelf of a spoiler at the back to get the power down?

As for a colour - how about British Racing Green, but with a www.houseofkolor.com deep, glossy finish? Something that reflects the fact it's a British sports car along with the TVR heritage of crazy paint jobs?

Aerofoil

1,543 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Think it looks good, really like the back. The only change I would do is to the side air intakes. I think they look too straight for the rest of the shape. Maybe make then slightly curvier to fit with the rest of the shape. I guess this was done so the original door could be used, and the intakes extended to meet the larger rear?

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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Aerofoil said:
The only change I would do is to the side air intakes.


The Range Rover style ones aft of the front wheel... or the Ferrari style door ones..?

Edited by Podie on Tuesday 4th July 11:47

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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That'd really piss off Bugatti if it did hit 276mph! Believe anything above 230 when I see it though

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Tuesday 4th July 2006
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needs to be black or purple....