MP4-12C Market - New Price Level?

[BMCG]

So what's the collective noun for a group of MP4-12c's....

Surprising that Rybrook has 5 in stock...also that 2 of them are offered at ~140k GBP....

What am I missing?

http://www.rybrookspecialistcars.co.uk/vehicles-se...

[kbf1981]

Why is there a 10k price difference between the cars with near identical miles, ages and paint colour?

[astroarcadia]

SOR?

[Newc]

kbf1981 said:

Why is there a 10k price difference between the cars with near identical miles, ages and paint colour?

The extent of carbon options fitted I suspect. The cheapest one looks quite base spec, and the carbon bits add up very quickly.

But it must mean that dealer bids are in the 120s for early cars. That's quite...tempting...

[mpbcs]

I bought one fairly recently, but would not touch any of those cars, they have what looks like v poor spec. Wrong wheels, no carbon, no sports exhaust, no ceramics etc. Can make a huge difference when speccing the car, changing a £170k car to £210k car.

[BMCG]

mpbcs said:

I bought one fairly recently, but would not touch any of those cars, they have what looks like v poor spec. Wrong wheels, no carbon, no sports exhaust, no ceramics etc. Can make a huge difference when speccing the car, changing a £170k car to £210k car.

Whilst such options might change the aesthetic and aural attributes of the car...only the ceramics might change (and that's a seperate debate) the driving characteristics...

So if you're wanting the essence of the MP4-12C driving experience without the frills....are these not worthy?

[mpbcs]

well, look at the orange one below... that has the correct options fitted and is £170k but has done many more miles

[BMCG]

i see your point...curious that options make such a difference...the market appears to be speaking

[WCZ]

BMCG said:

Whilst such options might change the aesthetic and aural attributes of the car...only the ceramics might change (and that's a seperate debate) the driving characteristics...

So if you're wanting the essence of the MP4-12C driving experience without the frills....are these not worthy?

imo the carbon doesn't save enough weight and therefore is only valuable aesthetically and for re-sale though the light wheels are worth it

[kryten22uk]

mpbcs said:

I bought one fairly recently, but would not touch any of those cars, they have what looks like v poor spec. Wrong wheels, no carbon, no sports exhaust, no ceramics etc. Can make a huge difference when speccing the car, changing a £170k car to £210k car.

But thats just personal preference. If you wanted a 12C and werent as fussed about the carbon, then you get one for less cash upfront. If you want the options then you need to pay extra. Its not like they're a faulty car or anything. There'll always be a market for cheap cars.

[mpbcs]

kryten22uk said:

But thats just personal preference. If you wanted a 12C and werent as fussed about the carbon, then you get one for less cash upfront. If you want the options then you need to pay extra. Its not like they're a faulty car or anything. There'll always be a market for cheap cars.

When looking at the Mclaren, the options such as the carbon and the lightweight wheels really 'lift' the car. And, from movements I have seen in the market for these cars, others agree with me. It seems hard to shift cars that are poorly specced.

[F355GTS]

Have a feeling the orange one is the ex London demonstrator but maybe wrong. It's VAT qualifying so is desirable for export which I suspect has a greater bearing on the price

[JPF40]

I bought mine solely on spec. I wanted everything and therefore waited for a car with every single carbon option. When it comes to resale spec. is important.

[Animal]

WCZ said:

imo the carbon doesn't save enough weight and therefore is only valuable aesthetically and for re-sale though the light wheels are worth it

I'm sure I saw a quote from Jay Leno with words to the effect that the carbon options actually don't save any weight.

[SonnyM]

JPF40 said:

I bought mine solely on spec. I wanted everything and therefore waited for a car with every single carbon option. When it comes to resale spec. is important.

Interesting. Looks like cosmetic options are more desirable on the MP4 as opposed to, say, driver / performance focused options on a GT3 (buckets, clubsport, etc).

Seems the MP4 attracts a different type of customer.

[isaldiri]

WCZ said:

imo the carbon doesn't save enough weight and therefore is only valuable aesthetically and for re-sale though the light wheels are worth it

The carbon bits do not save any weight and are purely cosmetic. However generally at that price point of sportscar, various carbon bits do seem to be perceived to be more important (higher discount of used car to list car price perhaps..)

[kbf1981]

Surprised carbon etc. has such an impact. I'd pay more for a carbon interior but I wouldn't consider it as important as colour, say for example.

[Vixpy1]

F355GTS said:

Have a feeling the orange one is the ex London demonstrator but maybe wrong. It's VAT qualifying so is desirable for export which I suspect has a greater bearing on the price

, New car looks nice

[iandc]

isaldiri said:

The carbon bits do not save any weight and are purely cosmetic. However generally at that price point of sportscar, various carbon bits do seem to be perceived to be more important (higher discount of used car to list car price perhaps..)

I thought the carbon brakes are actually HEAVIER than the standard steel ones.

[BMCG]

So what one might conclude is that the market seems to be favouring form over substance?