Quattroporte Bargain?
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Yes but isnt it the same for most big cars like that/ 7 series BMW's seem to drop like a stone from 70K.
The new A8's are fantastic looking machines but I'm sure they will drop as well.
I know I'd rather have the Italian machine and risk losing a few more on it but enjoy it a lot more
The new A8's are fantastic looking machines but I'm sure they will drop as well.
I know I'd rather have the Italian machine and risk losing a few more on it but enjoy it a lot more
I went to the Quattroporte launch a couple of weeks ago and in the flesh it is a very attractive car - exceptionally classy - and well put together. The interior is, frankly fabulous and has much more sense of occassion than any german car.
The gearbox is a problem for the class in which it competes - but not for enthusiastic drivers.
The Quattroporte unlike the 4200 Coupe defauts its Cambio gearbox to Auto mode, and as such without a tourque convertor is quite jerky on gearchanges - andcertainly not like the silky smooth BMW, Jag or Mercs- if you want a slushmatic get one of those (Though I'd avoid a BM because of the awful Bangle Balls up of design).
However in clutchless manual mode it's fine - and much more sporty and responsive - you pays your money!
As for Depreciation well it's going to be horriffic!!
but then that's the same for any large 4 door car -Merc S class and BMW 7s will depreciate even more - the fact is though that your 70K car will be worth £35K at best after 3 years.
But outside Porsche 911s what 60K-80K car does have fabulous residuals?
The gearbox is a problem for the class in which it competes - but not for enthusiastic drivers.
The Quattroporte unlike the 4200 Coupe defauts its Cambio gearbox to Auto mode, and as such without a tourque convertor is quite jerky on gearchanges - andcertainly not like the silky smooth BMW, Jag or Mercs- if you want a slushmatic get one of those (Though I'd avoid a BM because of the awful Bangle Balls up of design).
However in clutchless manual mode it's fine - and much more sporty and responsive - you pays your money!
As for Depreciation well it's going to be horriffic!!
but then that's the same for any large 4 door car -Merc S class and BMW 7s will depreciate even more - the fact is though that your 70K car will be worth £35K at best after 3 years.
But outside Porsche 911s what 60K-80K car does have fabulous residuals?
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In reply to your last comment, your quite right - in the medium term - the only car with low depreciation in this price bracket is the 911. I've resisted it for years and still can't bring myself to buy a car where the engine is behind the rear axle! The engine should be in the front (preferably) or the middle but not in the boot!
In reply to your last comment, your quite right - in the medium term - the only car with low depreciation in this price bracket is the 911. I've resisted it for years and still can't bring myself to buy a car where the engine is behind the rear axle! The engine should be in the front (preferably) or the middle but not in the boot!
i saw an x plate old model this morning and thought how claasy it looked for probably just under £20k.
Andrew if you are worried about the engine position on a 911, just consider where F1 designers choose to fit the lump next time you are in front of the box one sunday afternoon,it may make you feel a little better about it ? Drive a 4wd version and it is difficult to tell where the lump is located.
Andrew if you are worried about the engine position on a 911, just consider where F1 designers choose to fit the lump next time you are in front of the box one sunday afternoon,it may make you feel a little better about it ? Drive a 4wd version and it is difficult to tell where the lump is located.
I've only lost the back end on a car once on the road without being able to catch it (I actually 'over caught' it!) and the engine on that car was in the middle.
I understand the point on engine positioning for the track where you have more space to sort out oversteer which will happen at a higher level of lateral acceleration but for the road, where cars come the other way, I like things to be a bit more predictable, if slightly inferior!
I understand the point on engine positioning for the track where you have more space to sort out oversteer which will happen at a higher level of lateral acceleration but for the road, where cars come the other way, I like things to be a bit more predictable, if slightly inferior!
355f said:
this will be another residual value disaster for Maserati. When will Ferrari give up and produce proper ferrari cars again!
and your point is what?
How does Ferrari owning and developing Maserati effect the cars they produce carrying the Ferrari badge ??
The Maserati brand is a device for Ferrari to attack markets that they are not currently in without devaluing the cachet of the Prancing horse.
Ferrari are not going to build sub £100K cars - but there is a market for them (a huge and very profitable one at that)
By launching a £65K coupe, a 70K Spider and a 70K 4 door saloon they are effectively broadening thier market penetration at very little extra cost. There is a large amount of technnology share, and the importers and dealer networks already exist.
The Maserati brand neeeds a few years for people to forget the dreadful crap thet was produced between 1985 and 1995 and for them to remember the heritage of the Marque which is, lets be honest, actually greater than that (historically - pre 1960) of Ferrari itself.
when that kicks in the modern cars will be recognised for what they are and residuals will firm - but till then we can all grab great 2nd hand bargains so why complain!
clubsport said:
Andrew if you are worried about the engine position on a 911, just consider where F1 designers choose to fit the lump next time you are in front of the box one sunday afternoon,it may make you feel a little better about it ?
I was under the impression that F1 engines were forward of the back wheels/axle.
D.
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