VMAX Resurrection - List of Speeds
Discussion
Gents... The 193mph of CGT was all it was going to do, it hit this speed on each of 8 outings. I thought I saw 195 on one of them but apparently not.
Porsche put a lot of effort into making the CGT stable at its top speed of 207mph.
It has a Cd of ~0.4 so it is a veritable "brick wall".
I checked some data which I logged from the last vmax. In the run from 270kph to 300kph my 993tt (not exactly aeromiester either with its Gt2 arches) did it nearly 2 seconds faster and in 80 metres less than the CGT !!
The F1 has a Cd of 0.32 and its engine is stronger with its 680NM @5500rpm cmpared to the 590NM @ 5750 for the CGT -the F1 has a bigger area under the curve and it weighs ~300+kg less.
Porsche put a lot of effort into making the CGT stable at its top speed of 207mph.
It has a Cd of ~0.4 so it is a veritable "brick wall".
I checked some data which I logged from the last vmax. In the run from 270kph to 300kph my 993tt (not exactly aeromiester either with its Gt2 arches) did it nearly 2 seconds faster and in 80 metres less than the CGT !!
The F1 has a Cd of 0.32 and its engine is stronger with its 680NM @5500rpm cmpared to the 590NM @ 5750 for the CGT -the F1 has a bigger area under the curve and it weighs ~300+kg less.
TB993tt said:
Gents... The 193mph of CGT was all it was going to do, it hit this speed on each of 8 outings. I thought I saw 195 on one of them but apparently not.
Porsche put a lot of effort into making the CGT stable at its top speed of 207mph.
It has a Cd of ~0.4 so it is a veritable "brick wall".
I checked some data which I logged from the last vmax. In the run from 270kph to 300kph my 993tt (not exactly aeromiester either with its Gt2 arches) did it nearly 2 seconds faster and in 80 metres less than the CGT !!
The F1 has a Cd of 0.32 and its engine is stronger with its 680NM @5500rpm cmpared to the 590NM @ 5750 for the CGT -the F1 has a bigger area under the curve and it weighs ~300+kg less.
Thanks for the clarification Porsche put a lot of effort into making the CGT stable at its top speed of 207mph.
It has a Cd of ~0.4 so it is a veritable "brick wall".
I checked some data which I logged from the last vmax. In the run from 270kph to 300kph my 993tt (not exactly aeromiester either with its Gt2 arches) did it nearly 2 seconds faster and in 80 metres less than the CGT !!
The F1 has a Cd of 0.32 and its engine is stronger with its 680NM @5500rpm cmpared to the 590NM @ 5750 for the CGT -the F1 has a bigger area under the curve and it weighs ~300+kg less.
LuckyP said:
Amazing how you get caught up in the spirit of it all and I forgot that I was 25mph off the double ton, in something without any airbags or electronic safety devices that I knocked up in the garden shed!!
:DOr that Griffith, presumably the helmet was meant to preserve the driver's look of surprise when his head got torn offLeonS RT12----------------------------207mph
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
interesting that the two 430s did the same speed - I would have thought the runflat tyres would have been slower
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
interesting that the two 430s did the same speed - I would have thought the runflat tyres would have been slower
LeonS RT12----------------------------207mph
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
andyvdg Tuscan 2 S--------------------177mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
I think I saw it right - you go past the timing board bl**dy quick!
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
andyvdg Tuscan 2 S--------------------177mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
I think I saw it right - you go past the timing board bl**dy quick!
LeonS RT12----------------------------207mph
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
andyvdg Tuscan 2 S--------------------177mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
Gyrock - Z4M Coupe--------------------164mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
Z4MC added - chuffed couldn't get my CSL above 161 last time!
(Can't understand the 155 limited thing with BMWs, my speedo was reading c172, time beams said 164 and the car was still pulling. Perhaps it's all Bavarian conspiracy)
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
andyvdg Tuscan 2 S--------------------177mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
Gyrock - Z4M Coupe--------------------164mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
Z4MC added - chuffed couldn't get my CSL above 161 last time!
(Can't understand the 155 limited thing with BMWs, my speedo was reading c172, time beams said 164 and the car was still pulling. Perhaps it's all Bavarian conspiracy)
LeonS RT12----------------------------207mph
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
andyvdg Tuscan 2 S--------------------177mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
Gyrock - Z4M Coupe--------------------164mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
update
Markbe SL600--------------------------195mph
MOD 500 993TT-------------------------195mph
Toby C,GT-----------------------------193mph
ThatPhilBrettguy Ford GT--------------190mph
etlprws (Peter) 996 Turbo S Cabrio----189mph
LeonS 993 RTurbo----------------------187mph
Craig Bruce 996 Turbo S Cabrio--------187mph
Bluesatin 996 Turbo X50---------------187mph
Derestrictor M6-----------------------186mph
R1_JON 996 GT2------------------------186mph
Akki SL55-----------------------------184mph
SpeedFreakDave 996 GT2----------------184mph
Derestrictor B5-----------------------180mph
Viperbl Audi RS4 B5 Saloon------------180mph
Davidbut F430-------------------------179mph
Trax FerrariF430----------------------179mph
andyvdg Tuscan 2 S--------------------177mph
Kennyboy 993tt------------------------177mph
Ultima69 Porsche GT3------------------177mph
Luckyp Ultima GTR --------------------177mph
S3am 996 GT3 mk2----------------------176mph
Twerlie Noble M12---------------------175mph
Dave - B5 Audi RS4--------------------174mph
CrisisJez Monaro VXR------------------174mph
Maff - Aston Martin DB9 Volante-------174mph
Harryoz - Aston Martin Vanquish-------174mph
AllBlack - Audi RS6-------------------172mph
Zorba - Audi RS4----------------------172mph
Erik997 997C2S------------------------172mph
Stevebez E55--------------------------172mph
Jeremyc 996 GT3 Mk1-------------------171mph
Adam 997C2S Aerokit-------------------171mph
Flying Trotter 997C2S-----------------170mph
BrendonJ - Ferrari 355 Spider---------169mph
Grizz -Black rs6 AVANT ---------------169mph
911addict - Porsche 964 turbo---------168mph
CraigW-Audi RS6-----------------------166mph
Zorba - Audi RS4 (with 4 people)------166mph
Gyrock - Z4M Coupe--------------------164mph
agtlaw 996C2--------------------------163mph
Dick Dastardly Z3Mcoupe---------------163mph
GrahamC230K - Audi S4-----------------163mph
anniesdad Cayman S--------------------163mph
GregE240 500SL------------------------161mph
Nastywej ML63 ------------------------161mph
Snuffy - Noble M12-GTO3---------------160mph
Maff - Aston Martin V8 Roadster-------160mph
Maff - Nissan 300ZX-------------------159mph
Uncle Bulgaria - TVR Griffit 500------156mph
Marshy - Audi S4----------------------156mph
Mechsympathy - MG ZTT ----------------156mph (ltd)
Muncher Boxster-----------------------150mph
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