Wide Band Lambda sensors

[Chassis 33]

What are the alternatives to the Innovate LC1? Are there any that can measure lambda and EGT in the same package?

Regards
Iain

[rev-erend]

Iain - I use a Zeitronix ..

Seems pretty good..

I have a dash board display of EGT and lambda .. the lambda value also feeds to my Emerald.

http://www.zeitronix.com/index.html



They also do a guage with the info but I prefered the display as it can be hidden away when you are not mapping.. thought having a guage was a bit chav.

Edited by rev-erend on Wednesday 13th August 10:34

Edited by rev-erend on Wednesday 13th August 10:36

[rev-erend]

YHM re : injectors.

[cptsideways]

Vems unit does exactly this, lots of additional functions too

www.vems.co.uk

[stevieturbo]

FJO Wideband
http://www.fjoracing.com/products/WBAFR/

Zeitronix
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/Products.htm

AEM
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?Category...

Not sure of brand
http://www.airfuelmeter.com/french/afm1_fr_info.ht...

FAST
http://www.fuelairspark.com/Products/details/meter...

NGK Branded, including NTK sensor as far as I know
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/products/air-fuel/ind...

Dynojet Wideband
http://www.dynojet.co.uk/wideband/

WMS, never heard of them
http://www.wmsracing.com/wmsweb/wideband.htm

JAW
http://www.14point7.com/JAW/JAW.htm

PLX Devices
http://plxdevices.com/

And of course you are aware of Techedge.
http://www.wbo2.com/

NTK 7 pin sensor in the UK
http://www.lambdasensor.co.uk/main/mwide.htm

VEMS EGT/Wideband
http://shop.vems.hu/catalog/product_info.php?cPath...


To name but a few.

[Chassis 33]

So which do you have experience of, good or bad?

Regards
Iain

[stevieturbo]

Ive used FJO ( installed in my own car for past 6 years ) Innovate, and PLX.

My FJO has been pretty much faultless, so its been great.

Ive used the Innovate LC-1 and LM-1....LC-1 is a PITA to install, and can be troublesome, as sensors dont appear to last long.
LM-1 serves a different purpose given its size, but has same sensor issues as LC-1
That said, they do work.

Ive used PLX-M200 I think it is...oldish unit on a few cars. Never really had any problems with them. They too require sensor renewal after time, but nowhere near as often as Innovate.

I'd like to try the new PLX stuff, or the Zeitronix....as both look quite good

But TBH, there are that bloomin many widebands out there, its hard to know what to choose !!!
The best thing about the Innovate, is they are cheap !!, but prices for the others are catching up with them.

[dnb]

I have a VEMS wideband in a couple of projects. It's simple to install and self calibration is well worth having.

[Mr2Mike]

LC-1 uses the same LSU4.2 Bosch sensor as most of the others doesn't it?

[Vixpy1]

The PLX units are great, really like them.

[Chassis 33]

Thanks folks, plenty of feedback to mull over there this weekend. Are there any setups out there that can trigger a warning light without needing a gauge? One that came on to warn I was running too lean an that's it, obviously with scope in the background to datalog and communicate with ECU's etc

If I had my way on the racer I'd have a warning light for coolant temperature, a bigger one for oil pressure, and a 3stage shift light. I'm not Michael Schumacher and can't process three different information feeds, talk to Jean Todt on the intercom and break, turn in, hit the apex consistently at the same time!

Regards
Iain

[cptsideways]

Chassis 33 said:

Thanks folks, plenty of feedback to mull over there this weekend. Are there any setups out there that can trigger a warning light without needing a gauge? One that came on to warn I was running too lean an that's it, obviously with scope in the background to datalog and communicate with ECU's etc

If I had my way on the racer I'd have a warning light for coolant temperature, a bigger one for oil pressure, and a 3stage shift light. I'm not Michael Schumacher and can't process three different information feeds, talk to Jean Todt on the intercom and break, turn in, hit the apex consistently at the same time!

Regards
Iain

You'll have an issue with lean running at lift off on any of the systems so a little difficult to set up for a warning gauge. The VEMS unit is programmable to output various options that can be datalogged & it'll also double up as a factory lambda too.

[Chassis 33]

Good point, well made!
Regards
Iain