Water in rear n/s footwell ( and lots of it )
Discussion
while cleaning car this morning noticed in the rear passenger footwell, weter, just enough to cover the top of the carpet. ive had a look at various threads on here and none seem to point to the problem.
windows and door seals are fine, no water at all on the front, rear, or side of the well, just in the bottom,
took the rear seat out, lifted the carpet, must have been a few pints of clear water, assume its only a recent problem.
did 100 miles yesterday in the rain.
cannot see where it could possibly be getting in.
any ideas or anyone had the same problem,
much appreciated
07 vxr8 if that helps
windows and door seals are fine, no water at all on the front, rear, or side of the well, just in the bottom,
took the rear seat out, lifted the carpet, must have been a few pints of clear water, assume its only a recent problem.
did 100 miles yesterday in the rain.
cannot see where it could possibly be getting in.
any ideas or anyone had the same problem,
much appreciated
07 vxr8 if that helps
Edited by extra330 on Saturday 28th December 13:11
cheers,
its not through washing as it hasnt been done for a couple of weeks.
Couple of weeks ago when i cleaned it out there was no sign of dampness or water.
After having another look, i doubt it is coming from seals etc, as it is bone dry everywhere except the bottom of the footwell.
with the depth of the soundproofing along with the carpet and the deep well i have used 3 full size bath towels to mop it up.pretty dry now and will get the heat gun on it tomorrow to dry the rest out.
never had any musty smells, no mould, clean water that came out.
its a mystery to me as no signs whatsoever of water / drips, other than the well.
there are no grommets in the well.
just hoping someone else has had the same problem in the past and can point me in the right direction.
thanks again
its not through washing as it hasnt been done for a couple of weeks.
Couple of weeks ago when i cleaned it out there was no sign of dampness or water.
After having another look, i doubt it is coming from seals etc, as it is bone dry everywhere except the bottom of the footwell.
with the depth of the soundproofing along with the carpet and the deep well i have used 3 full size bath towels to mop it up.pretty dry now and will get the heat gun on it tomorrow to dry the rest out.
never had any musty smells, no mould, clean water that came out.
its a mystery to me as no signs whatsoever of water / drips, other than the well.
there are no grommets in the well.
just hoping someone else has had the same problem in the past and can point me in the right direction.
thanks again
Six Hours on it today, trying to find where water is coming in,
Guess what?? for the life of me, cannot find anything, its as if someone has poured a couple of gallons of water right in the middle of the footwell.
Front footwell bone dry, as are all the others,
drains in bottom of doors clear and water running out of them, while pouring water down between window with door open,
there are no water marks anywhere.
all rubber door seals look perfect, again no water getting past them
Dried it all out with hot air gun.
Had the hose pipe all over the rear end for 30 mins, followed by power wash, followed by car wash,
jacked car up, power washed underneath............. nothing, not a drip anywhere
followed above tip and plastered under carpet with talc, cause i know its going to come back.
totally lost now
Guess what?? for the life of me, cannot find anything, its as if someone has poured a couple of gallons of water right in the middle of the footwell.
Front footwell bone dry, as are all the others,
drains in bottom of doors clear and water running out of them, while pouring water down between window with door open,
there are no water marks anywhere.
all rubber door seals look perfect, again no water getting past them
Dried it all out with hot air gun.
Had the hose pipe all over the rear end for 30 mins, followed by power wash, followed by car wash,
jacked car up, power washed underneath............. nothing, not a drip anywhere
followed above tip and plastered under carpet with talc, cause i know its going to come back.
totally lost now
Update......... and question.
Question first.
A few of you guys recommend taking the door card off to look at the membranes condition... my thoughts are, surely even if the membrane was taken off altogether or was perished, still the only place for water to get is inside the door cavity. thus coming out of the drain hole as normal. Am i wrong ? ?
Update on water ...............................
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been pis==ng down all day up north here, had to go out for an hour on torrential roads. approx 50 miles. drove through loads of standing water on purpose.
Got home, opened the rear door, more or less expecting a gush of water to meet me as in the cartoons...
..........
nope! not a f==ing drop, carpet and underneath bone dry and had yesterday laced the are with talcum powder as suggested
clean enough to put on baby`s ass
Whats going on???
No. 100% window was not open at all.
So, I`m still not happy. its got to happen again sometime.
or maybe i have had a spiritual visit
sure there will be more updates to come
cheers fellas
Question first.
A few of you guys recommend taking the door card off to look at the membranes condition... my thoughts are, surely even if the membrane was taken off altogether or was perished, still the only place for water to get is inside the door cavity. thus coming out of the drain hole as normal. Am i wrong ? ?
Update on water ...............................
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...............................................
been pis==ng down all day up north here, had to go out for an hour on torrential roads. approx 50 miles. drove through loads of standing water on purpose.
Got home, opened the rear door, more or less expecting a gush of water to meet me as in the cartoons...
..........
nope! not a f==ing drop, carpet and underneath bone dry and had yesterday laced the are with talcum powder as suggested
clean enough to put on baby`s ass
Whats going on???
No. 100% window was not open at all.
So, I`m still not happy. its got to happen again sometime.
or maybe i have had a spiritual visit
sure there will be more updates to come
cheers fellas
Update.....
Well after months of rear n/s rear carpets getting wet, i`ve booked a full day today with no family round in an attempt to rectify this once and for all.
I was going to take the front seat out to get the carpet up, didn`t want to do this initially as the carpet is bone dry in the front.
Anyway, took the n/s front side cappings off and was able to lift edge of carpet. bloody soaking underneath. 5 hrs to dry it out.
So, its coming in the front and running back and pooling in the rear footwell.
The door card came off, membrane is in tact, so back on.
i`ve looked (halfheartedly before) at the suggestion of leaves in the scuttle panel, there was none.
Scuttle panel of again,
What i detected was
1: the large rubber funnel shaped grommet for draining water away was a loose fit so that got a dose of silicon and put back in.
2: which, i think is the problem, if you look with a torch in the same area there are two 1/2" holes through the bodywork approx 1" higher up. dont know what they are for but would suggest they should have grommets in too. again, a dose of silicon as no grommets were to hand.
Also took another members advice of covering the mesh filter with cling film to stop water getting in there........ think i have had the piss taken out of me there. Or maybe i have misunderstood.
did this and thought that`s it, must be sorted.
cleaned car, went out for a drive......warm day so put the a/c on...except ( you guessed right ) no air blowing with fans on.
Then i thought.... dumb Bugger.... that`s the air intake for cabin. Where the pollen filter normally goes.
Off it came.
To summerise Where i park the car in the drive is a narrow one and like a wind tunnel. i assume when it rains and wind is up it is blowing water up through the 1/2" holes because the water is clean/clear, not coming in when driving and it would be dirty water if it was. cant park car other way round.restricted access.
I`m hoping and pretty confident this is sorted.
We will see.
Hope this may help someone else.
It has been a p.i.t.a. and has stopped me ploughing more money into mods
Well after months of rear n/s rear carpets getting wet, i`ve booked a full day today with no family round in an attempt to rectify this once and for all.
I was going to take the front seat out to get the carpet up, didn`t want to do this initially as the carpet is bone dry in the front.
Anyway, took the n/s front side cappings off and was able to lift edge of carpet. bloody soaking underneath. 5 hrs to dry it out.
So, its coming in the front and running back and pooling in the rear footwell.
The door card came off, membrane is in tact, so back on.
i`ve looked (halfheartedly before) at the suggestion of leaves in the scuttle panel, there was none.
Scuttle panel of again,
What i detected was
1: the large rubber funnel shaped grommet for draining water away was a loose fit so that got a dose of silicon and put back in.
2: which, i think is the problem, if you look with a torch in the same area there are two 1/2" holes through the bodywork approx 1" higher up. dont know what they are for but would suggest they should have grommets in too. again, a dose of silicon as no grommets were to hand.
Also took another members advice of covering the mesh filter with cling film to stop water getting in there........ think i have had the piss taken out of me there. Or maybe i have misunderstood.
did this and thought that`s it, must be sorted.
cleaned car, went out for a drive......warm day so put the a/c on...except ( you guessed right ) no air blowing with fans on.
Then i thought.... dumb Bugger.... that`s the air intake for cabin. Where the pollen filter normally goes.
Off it came.
To summerise Where i park the car in the drive is a narrow one and like a wind tunnel. i assume when it rains and wind is up it is blowing water up through the 1/2" holes because the water is clean/clear, not coming in when driving and it would be dirty water if it was. cant park car other way round.restricted access.
I`m hoping and pretty confident this is sorted.
We will see.
Hope this may help someone else.
It has been a p.i.t.a. and has stopped me ploughing more money into mods
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