TVR Power 4.3 here I come - great deal!
Discussion
billynobrakes said:
ShiDevil said:
What's the difference? Which Ferodo did you go for?
Carbon Loraine are racing pads and have more metal content so are noisy, I went for Ferodo DS2500 Took the wife out in the Tam today (although I flooded the engine when starting it up...)
There is a resonance from the exhaust at about 3k revs. I told my wife that if I have the big bore system, that will eliminate the noise. (After I took her to the garden centre and then bought her dinner..) She didn't seem against it!
I cannot really comment on the Str8 Six 4.3, but for those that have had it, they do seem to have a more powerful engine compared to Powers' - but then it does cost a few £k more. I am sure the 4.3/4.5 engine TVR's will hold a premium come sale time, as most of the doubts about engine reliability will have been removed - I had mine done because I am sure this is what the TVR's would have had from new if they were still around today, with all of the old problems solved.
I am happy with mine, have now covered over 1200 miles since the rebuild and is starting to loosen up, although am still keeping revs below 3.5k, so short changing has been the order of the day. I have the post run-in service on 26th of this month. Have already had new tyres arrive to be fitted when serviced (Front - Toyo Proxes T1-Sport 225/40, Rear - Toyo Proxes T1-Sport 255/35), and I had the ACT big bore full exhaust system (along with my brand new Tuscan S cats) fitted last month. Am hoping that will help when I have it re-mapped and dyno'd after another few k miles.
I have no plans on selling mine, so whether the money spent will help value isn't really an issue for me - I just wanted the perfect Tam for me.
ETA - Insurance - when I informed my insurance company (Admiral) about the upgrade, they cancelled my policy there and then.
I didn't mind so much, as they didn't do an agreed value, and at the time, the car was valued at only £16k. I re-insured immediately with Mannings, with all mods/upgrades declared and an agreed value of around £30k - all they asked for was pictures of the car and a written statement from Dom.
I am happy with mine, have now covered over 1200 miles since the rebuild and is starting to loosen up, although am still keeping revs below 3.5k, so short changing has been the order of the day. I have the post run-in service on 26th of this month. Have already had new tyres arrive to be fitted when serviced (Front - Toyo Proxes T1-Sport 225/40, Rear - Toyo Proxes T1-Sport 255/35), and I had the ACT big bore full exhaust system (along with my brand new Tuscan S cats) fitted last month. Am hoping that will help when I have it re-mapped and dyno'd after another few k miles.
I have no plans on selling mine, so whether the money spent will help value isn't really an issue for me - I just wanted the perfect Tam for me.
ETA - Insurance - when I informed my insurance company (Admiral) about the upgrade, they cancelled my policy there and then.
I didn't mind so much, as they didn't do an agreed value, and at the time, the car was valued at only £16k. I re-insured immediately with Mannings, with all mods/upgrades declared and an agreed value of around £30k - all they asked for was pictures of the car and a written statement from Dom.
Edited by chris watton on Thursday 14th May 14:03
Edited by chris watton on Thursday 14th May 14:06
gacksen said:
up to date havr just heard good things about str8six rebuilts. how much is it for one of their 4.3 rebuilts ?
are they using cast or forged pistons.... as for powers rebuilt casts ones are used
To be fair, I don't think that Dom would offer the warranty he does if the internals weren't up to the job.are they using cast or forged pistons.... as for powers rebuilt casts ones are used
gacksen said:
got the point that you truely love the 4.3...
havent said any word about warranty. only said cast pistons are used at powers 4.3 rebuilt....
maybe str8six uses forged ones ? i dont know and if you dont know the difference between forged and cast pistons and why you could need them then its quite clear you dont need them
....And it is quite clear that you don't love the 4.3.havent said any word about warranty. only said cast pistons are used at powers 4.3 rebuilt....
maybe str8six uses forged ones ? i dont know and if you dont know the difference between forged and cast pistons and why you could need them then its quite clear you dont need them
Here's an idea, why don't you start your own thread regarding the merits, for and against, between cast and forged pistons, am sure it will make an interesting read.
gacksen said:
there are plenty of resources online if somebody is interessted in the difference of cast and forged pistons so seems there is no need for that.
understandably on your side after spending 10k for bits and boobs of the 4.3 upgrade you expect the perfect engine.
there are other people that spent almost twice that amount but are still able to discuss pros and cons of an engine concept and built. maybe they should not have put the engine of my car in the current sprint magazine......
if this is some sort of best engine best engine builder best 4.3 thread go on praising but still cast pistons in the 4.3 built 
But, I knew the pistons probably would not be changed even before I had the rebuild! The pistons are only changed if the originals are not in good condition. I know it is the crank and con rods that are replaced, as well as most of the top end.understandably on your side after spending 10k for bits and boobs of the 4.3 upgrade you expect the perfect engine.
there are other people that spent almost twice that amount but are still able to discuss pros and cons of an engine concept and built. maybe they should not have put the engine of my car in the current sprint magazine......
if this is some sort of best engine best engine builder best 4.3 thread go on praising
but still cast pistons in the 4.3 built What is your point?
gacksen said:
mk1fan said:
As someone who regularily revs their 3.6, does that mean my pistons are going to break soon?
this does not mean that will break anything but of course can. the 3.6 has a stroke of 83mm compared to 100mm of the 4.3 means you will have the same piston speed that the 4.3 has at 6200rpm at 7500rpm.
Would not go higher that often on the 3.6. but of course depending on how well is anything balanced up.
I also used to take my first Tam to the limit quite a lot, I used it almost every day for three years and never let me down. And that was a standard 2002 3.6!
gacksen said:
seems you had been one of the lucly few. with my first 3.6 also no problems but avoided the above 7500rpm region.
how many of powers rebuilts habe ever failed ? would you write a report in pistonheads regarding your knackered engine and risk warranty to be voided ?
I would have to put your first sentence another way.how many of powers rebuilts habe ever failed ? would you write a report in pistonheads regarding your knackered engine and risk warranty to be voided ?
I was one of many who had no problems, and was never one of the unlucky few.
As for the engine breaking, I know there are a couple who had problems, but as far as I know, Dom sorted them without question.
No company is perfect, but after researching as much as I could, and weighing up pros and cons of the different builders, I decided to go with Powers. I used them before with my first Tamora, and have used them again with my second, and never had any real issues. For me, it was a no-brainer.
I am sure you feel differently, and that's fine. But I have always been happy with Dom's service, thus far.
Don1 said:
My 2p... Dom has been up-front about issues & repairs, and has told the truth on here (no matter what has passed between us, he's always stuck to his word). One event that really stuck in mt mind was the Winstanley engine - he took it on the chin and earned a lot of respect in my eyes over that.
As for seeing 'red' - I do 99.99% of drives. But then again I have also set all the shift lights 1000rpm lower than the factory settings...
As for seeing 'red' - I do 99.99% of drives. But then again I have also set all the shift lights 1000rpm lower than the factory settings...
If there's a problem, it does seem that Dom will hold his hands up and deal with it without a second thought. On the whole, I have read only positive comments about both the FFF route and Powers', both online and off.I have many times said that the reason I decided to go for another Tam was because of the great options now available to us regarding upgrades/increasing engine reliability and power, much more choice now than when TVR were still in business. Hell, even the warranties are much better!
I was never after the fasted TVR there is, first and foremost, I wanted it to be as reliable/as complete a package as it could be, or as reliable as I could afford it to be. Being a Tamora, 500+bhp would be silly for me as I enjoy it most and drive it most on windy roads, usually using just 2nd and 3rd gears (I get why the hard topped TVR's want more power, but in a Tamora, going over 150 can mean losing the roof). But, I also had in mind a few Euro road trips, so the peace of mind of the rebuild is a great comfort. In truth, it hardly goes over 100mph most of the time, so I prefer the in-gear acceleration up to the speed limit more. Am hoping this is where the 4.3 and extra torque comes into play.
That post run-in service can't come soon enough!
billynobrakes said:
would be a boring world if we liked the same thing 
as I said it suits me and that is that
I think you need to hear mine when its screaming
I have noticed that the 4.3 revs just as freely as the old 3.6. I have no doubt that mine too will be screaming past 7000rpm very quickly after another few k miles - and I am stone cold convinced the engine won't break whilst doing so. as I said it suits me and that is that I think you need to hear mine when its screaming
gacksen said:
pleased to see that the SP6 4.3 can rev as high as golf GTI maybe there is new movement commin.... how to make a v6 out of a v8
Why are you even on this thread?I think most now get that you don't like Powers, you have made that quite clear - do you think you can now give it a rest?
gacksen said:
@chris
maybe try not to feel offended by every posting and dont take every written word seriously. seems to be a box of worms here. there is not just black and white on rhe planet
To be clear, I am not in any way offended, despite your best efforts:maybe try not to feel offended by every posting and dont take every written word seriously. seems to be a box of worms here. there is not just black and white on rhe planet
Edited by gacksen on Friday 15th May 14:35
gacksen said:
pleased to see that the SP6 4.3 can rev as high as golf GTI maybe there is new movement commin.... how to make a v6 out of a v8
I just do not understand why you feel compelled to write in this thread. Perhaps you need to start your own thread about whatever axe you're grinding, instead of contaminating this one.Just a thought..
Yeah but, this was never intended as a promotional thread (although the title may suggest that, admittedly)
I started it to share my experiences of the 4.3 build, both good and bad (I wasn't exactly glowing with praise for another company when they fell well short on expectations in my other re-trim thread).
I already knew all of the other avenues for the S6 before choosing Powers, I had researched for over a year, poring over every single thread, both good and bad from every option.
I knew well the options from RND, RG etc. (The latter was ruled out from a very early stage of research, I have to admit..)In the end, after weighing everything up, I went with Powers, knowing fully what to expect. I knew the FFF would give a higher rev range, so I didn't really need to be told on this thread. I was in communication with people who had the different upgrades before choosing, too, offline. So, I did not go into this blind, after all, it was a big chunk of money to spend.
After all's said and done, I chose Powers because I trust them the most. Also, they are the closest, and, at the time, the 4.3 cost me £8,400, which was/is a relative bargain compared to what others have spent.
As far as I know, I have never criticised the FFF, not once - so I find it sad that those that have gone down that route feel compelled to criticise the 4.3/4.5.
I really hate this tribal mentality 'Mine's better than yours' s
t!
I started it to share my experiences of the 4.3 build, both good and bad (I wasn't exactly glowing with praise for another company when they fell well short on expectations in my other re-trim thread).
I already knew all of the other avenues for the S6 before choosing Powers, I had researched for over a year, poring over every single thread, both good and bad from every option.
I knew well the options from RND, RG etc. (The latter was ruled out from a very early stage of research, I have to admit..)In the end, after weighing everything up, I went with Powers, knowing fully what to expect. I knew the FFF would give a higher rev range, so I didn't really need to be told on this thread. I was in communication with people who had the different upgrades before choosing, too, offline. So, I did not go into this blind, after all, it was a big chunk of money to spend.
After all's said and done, I chose Powers because I trust them the most. Also, they are the closest, and, at the time, the 4.3 cost me £8,400, which was/is a relative bargain compared to what others have spent.
As far as I know, I have never criticised the FFF, not once - so I find it sad that those that have gone down that route feel compelled to criticise the 4.3/4.5.
I really hate this tribal mentality 'Mine's better than yours' s
t!Edited by chris watton on Saturday 16th May 09:05
Don1 said:
To be fair the way these forums sound, there is Power and nothing else. I'm not saying the 4.3/4.5 is bad (quite the opposite), but there are (or were!), other options. Now I totally get people choosing a supplier, and being supportive of them. I have been guilty of calling some people 'fanbois' on here, due to their very blinkered view on this subject, which leads me to....
Hey Don I know - but this thread was about my experience with having the 4.3 upgrade and, at the time, it was £1k less than normal (hence the 'great deal' included in the thread title)
I enjoy reading other people's thread regarding optional upgrade choices, FFF especially, but there are fewer threads about that. That isn't my fault, I cannot start a thread about other upgrade options from other engine rebuilders because I didn't choose to have them - it is up to those that have had other options to start threads.
My point is that I would never write snide remarks on other people's threads about their particular choices, because it wasn't the same as mine - I just read and enjoy them just the same. I would feel a right t
t if I started criticising other people's choices because it wasn't the same as mine, and I would fully expect to be pulled up on it (and rightly so). But, doing that wouldn't even enter my mind, so it baffles me as to why other's do it!Don1 said:
Makes sense to me Sir. I've lost track - have you run it in and having full-powered fun yet?
It is going in for the post run-in service on the 26th. I have now clocked up 1300 miles since the rebuild, and the engine feels just as free revving as the 3.6 (just not as noisy/tappety), even at this early stage - it has been very difficult to keep it below the 3.5k rev limit.Edited by chris watton on Saturday 16th May 09:40
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