TVR Power 4.3 here I come - great deal!

TVR Power 4.3 here I come - great deal!

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chris watton

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Thursday 5th March 2015
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mk1fan said:
Chris,

I noted on the 'tyre' thread you're thinking of upgrading the tyres. Although 'standard', Tamy's road behaviour was greatly improved by fitting 225/40/18s alround. The Sag has the same sized tyres front and back. This, for me, is enough to follow suit.
Yeah, I plan to get the Vreds and 40 profile all-round for when it goes in for its service, so the ride height can be adjusted at the same time. smile

chris watton

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K4TRV said:
Chris, A word to the wise - or fellow 4.3 owner. Last year when I completed my running-in late Apr, the first date offered for the 1st Service was in July or August!!

I would suggest you "plan well ahead" as Dom's workshop gets so booked up in May, Jun & Jul, that you should "pre-arrange" something with Dom now??

Did you say something about France in the Summer??

Good luck

T
Cheers for the heads up - I shall email Dom and book in the service and MOT for the end of May now, rather than later..

chris watton

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alex_gray255 said:
Chris, you will need to get at least a few 1000 on the new engine before it can be dyno'ed. It needs to settle in
Hi Alex - that's what I thought. But when reading the threads in the S6 forum, I thought I seen a few posts where the engine's were being dyno'd shortly after being rebuilt/upgraded. But I guess the owner's may have already put on quite a few miles since the dyno...

chris watton

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Friday 6th March 2015
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Cheers gary smile

Good results!

Silly me, I just assumed they'd do an engine dyno reading for each rebuild...

chris watton

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Friday 6th March 2015
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Zippee said:
Chris, As Billynobrakes says theres no standard dyno on the 4.3. The 4.5 is dyno tuned to fully adjust the map but IIRC the 4.3 doesn’t require it.
How are you finding it? I found the 3500 rev limit to not really be much of a problem but I still got the 1000 miles out the way in 2 weeks smile
Just wait till you get that service done and you first floor it – Doms words when you leave that workshop will be along the lines of ‘Just go out and rag it – if it breaks I’ll fix it’ my best advice would be to heed those words and put a grin on your face….
I haven't been able to drive it since I bought it back on Wednesday frown - way too much work (work from home..). But plan to take it out over the weekend.

I have emailed Dom to book the service for the end of May, and asked again what oil for the run-in, as I forgot (was too excited to really listen on Wednesday!) Is it 5W40 semi for the run-in oil?

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Zippee said:
It's a basic mineral oil (can't remember the grade). Shame you're not closer as I have a couple of litres in the garage I'll never use. Mine used none of it during the run in period.
Cheers, Tony. I wouldn't imagine it will use a lot, if at all, due to being all freshly sealed and tolerences.

I do have my Tamora 4.3 badge to put on - although I'll probably find a way of messing that up... hehe Wil have a look at it tomorrow...

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TVRMs said:
Pleased for you Chris. Just remember the other thing that will kill your new engine is letting it labour smile

Keep it between 2 and 3K and vary the revs. Enjoy.
Thank you! My wife wants a go in it tomorrow, gulp...

Oh, and finally:


chris watton

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Sunday 8th March 2015
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Am trying to use the Tam every day, but still only managed to put on another 150 miles since picking her up. smile

The engine still feels very very tight, a lot of stuttering and juddering from time to time, and today, when coming home from picking my step-son up, it actually stalled when I was changing down to 2nd on a hill, with loads of cars behind me - how embarrassing! I can just imagine what they thought of me and my car as they drove past....

(Dom did say this may happen...)

chris watton

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Didn't it just burst back into life by dipping the clutch then re-engaging? (Almost seamlessly)
TBH, we had the music so loud, I didn't even realise the engine had cut out! I just switched it off and back on again - but felt a right pillock! I was doing about 35mph before changing into 2nd...

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Sunday 8th March 2015
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hehe

I had just finished finished 7 sets of squats before taking tha Tam out, so my legs were a little numb....

Edited by chris watton on Sunday 8th March 18:28

chris watton

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Monday 9th March 2015
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Lloydy83 said:
Chris, I've loved following this thread! Best of luck and keep us updated.

A 4.3 is most definitely on my shopping list but with my car having had a top-end rebuild from Power I can't justify the outlay just yet! I've been tempted to sell mine ( even though I only bought it last summer) as I've had a job relocation, but I know I'd regret it down the line.
Thank you - I will.

At the moment, I'm not really feeling the extra capacity from the 4.3 - it honestly feels little different from my 3.6 (apart from the stuttering and stalling..hehe). But the new engine is very tight right now and new parts need bedding in, and Im sure that once loosened up, it'll be a lot of fun.

I sold my first Tamora in 2007, and I did regret it - much more than I thought I would. When we came back to the UK from spending 3 years living and working in Italy, I bought another the first chance I got - there is still very little, if anything, for the price that I'd rather have, even after all these years!

You can imagine the pain I felt as I drove my wife's MGF through the Alps, instead of my Tamora!

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Monday 9th March 2015
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Just cancelled my insurance with Admiral and am now with Mannings. All upgrades declared and guaranteed value with 5k miles limit per year for £460 – a little more than the £180 I was paying, but it’s not really the same car anymore…

ETA - Spoke to Dom about rough running, he reckons it may be a dodgy HT lead. Am taking the Tam back up to him on Wednesday.

Edited by chris watton on Monday 9th March 21:09

chris watton

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Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I emailed Dom yesterday, asking about the poor running of the engine. He thinks it may be a dodgy HT lead. I am taking tha Tam back up to Powers tomorrow to put it back on the computer - and have new leads if that's the problem. Dom said it will be something stupid that is causing the problem.

I should have bought new leads and throttle pots at the same time as buying the other stuff...

So, hopefully, after tomorrow, the Tam should be more fun to drive and feel more like a 4.3.

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Tuesday 10th March 2015
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billynobrakes said:
Chris

I have been watching your threads about it cutting out, that is not right at all, plus you have said you can not feel the difference between the 3.6 and the 4.3 again that is not right, no doubt Dom will sort it out, tell him if he doesn't Del Boy will be and sort the problem out smile
hehe

You're right. I have read every post regarding the 4.3/4.5 upgrade, and no-one has mentioned poor running during the running-in period. I am stone cold sure Dom will sort it tomorrow. I think I'll go first thing in the morning. Just not feeling the extra shove from the increased torque right now.

My dad, bless him, when we picked the car up last week told me the 'lumpiness' was due to 'hotter cams in the race engine' hehe

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Tuesday 10th March 2015
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alex_gray255 said:
Chris, I had similar issues after my rebuild. Was solved by new software and re-balancing
the throttle bodies. For some reason, they were all out. Still have a heating issue, but
Dom will be looking at this when it gets a 5.0 rebuild done.
Am sure it'll be sorted tomorrow. I had my throttle bodies rebushed and balanced by Dom a few months back.

Somehow, I knew you'd have to have the 5 litre...hehe

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Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Am back - filled the tank up before leaving this morning, and now it's empty again!

Throttle bodies needed adjusting, now all is well, runs sweet as a nut - so much smoother! Dom also softened my Nitrons (something I could have done, but they showed me how) and the ride is now much better, less 'crashy'.

I stopped off at Paul Chance's place in Redditch, and he very kindly put on a new set of 322mm discs and new pads for me. He also took me out in his LS3 Cerbera, what a monster that is!

All in all, a good day!

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Thursday 12th March 2015
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billynobrakes said:
Glad its all sorted, told you it was the electrics wink

What do you think about engine now

Where did you get discs and pads from

Got 330mm on mine
The engine is very decieving for 'noobs' like me.

When driving it back from Dom's yesterday, I was sure it is no faster than the 3.6. However, when I looked at the speed I was doing, that is the real eye-opener. It is the linearity and progressiveness (or in a nutshell, smoothness)of the acceleration that is deceiving. When I thought I was doing 50, I was in fact doing 70, and when I was doing 70…

This is the difference, I was using the car exactly how I always have (up to 3.5k revs), and because I am used to using the car like that, it didn’t feel much quicker. Until you see the actual speed and realise that it is - and the Road Angel's flashing red!

Even for the 'lowly' 4.3, I can see that, once it has loosened up nicely after a few K miles, it’s gonna fly!

I got the brakes from Paul Chance (Fortuna)


chris watton

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billynobrakes said:
That's it, that is exactly what I wanted, none of that revvy shouty engine, that's what I have said to before your not up and down the gearbox getting it going as there is loads of torque and exactly as you say you do not realise how fast your going as its not as noisy until you look at the speedo, wait till its run in and you floor it, just be careful though till you get used to it

There is not much difference between the 4.5 and 4.3 just little more BHP and Torgue, I only went for the 4.5 as I had a bit of profit sharing from the company I work so though sod it your not getting any younger

Same as my discs then, di you get the Carbon Loraine pads, they was great on track but I simply could not live with them on the road too much squeal for me, so much better than the original discs

Cant wait to get her back from body shop as summers coming

Been spending more money on my Griff though engine rebuild that's all run in now, blooming radiator had a small leak so just changed to a nice Ali one, now the blooming steering rack has a small leak.
LOL, Sort one problem, another pops up. Always the same!

I went for the Ferodo pads, fast road. They feel fine with no squeaking. Even the 322mm discs are great, I figured that if they were deemed good enough for the Tuscan S and Sag, then they'd be great for the lighter Tam - 330 would have been overkill for me, I think - and I wanted to keep the OEM drilled look..

All I want now is the big bore exhaust...

(and after that, probably something else...)

chris watton

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Thursday 12th March 2015
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billynobrakes said:
I have changed to Ferodo much better

Big Bore exhaust then Doms MBE eek
lol - No, that is going too far, I simply cannot justify the £3k for that MBE

That £3k could get me these three things:

Big Bore exhaust system (highly likely, as this will compliment the new engine, I think)
CR gearbox from Readman Racing (very likely)
Carbon fibre airbox (I want, but find it hard to justify the cost just for engine bay garnish)

If money were no object, then yes, the MBE and those shiney new manifolds - but that's £6k for those two alone!

So, I recon I will have the exhaust and new tyres (40's for the fronts as well as rear), and leave it there for a while.

chris watton

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hehe

New French Windows to pay for next month...After two years, I have to start thinking about house renovation...