Smoke puffs from the bonnet
Smoke puffs from the bonnet
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konrad.holl

Original Poster:

267 posts

234 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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Hi all,

after getting a chance of driving this weekends (finally, after four weeks), I noticed small smoke puffs coming from under the bonnet. I needed to add some water all summer, but couldn't make out the reason yet. Seems like she's loosing the water in small amounts. Do you know any other than these two options?

  1. Expansion cap
  2. Pin hole in the radiator
How could I test any of these?

Thanks

Konrad

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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'TVR moneypit'

Has a new best friend

Targarama

14,785 posts

312 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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Can you spot where the steam is coming from? Might just be water hitting the exhaust manifold and steaming off.

If it was the radiator I would expect the leak to be so small it would not give off visible steam out of the bonnet vents. Several people have reported loose hose connections, might be worth checking the ones you can get to.

jimmyt

332 posts

274 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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Take it to a garage and get it pressure tested asap.

Smoke puffs (or steam actually) were symptoms of my head gasket going causing a £6K engine rebuild.

TVR moneypit indeed!

Good luck.

rich 36

13,739 posts

295 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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He's becoming something of an expert lately.

cramorra

1,689 posts

264 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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If it is only on startup its condensation or water running in the car from the outside (takes a few minutes to clear), ow if its all the time I agree that the radiator does not steam (I noticed mine was packing up rather by the smell when I got out the car- like hot coolant)- one thing going could be the hoses to and from the radiator- check for little drops under car left and right under air intakes (should be two drainholes there)- if its the hose have fun dismantling the bit (do not remove the tea bag- it is there for a reason biggrin)- if you do fit new hoses think of silicone ones - like ACT...
Hope it´s not the head gasket...
good luck
edited....oh god my spelling and this is b4 the wine

Edited by cramorra on Monday 26th November 00:15


Edited by cramorra on Monday 26th November 00:16

rolex

3,120 posts

287 months

Sunday 25th November 2007
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yep, get the cooling system pressure tested to rule out loose hoses or pinhole leak in radiator. I had a pinhole leak and noticed a few wisps of steam when stationary in traffic.

Daftlad

3,324 posts

270 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Very often, the puffs of steam are a consequence of overfilling and the system finding its own level. If you're filling it back up again, it will continue to do this.

Our Tamora had not been puffing steam and did not seem to be using much water if any, but...... MrsS had been commenting on the smell of antifreeze over the past few months -turns out the radcore is perished. Must say I'm not particularly impressed on a car that's not seen winter use and is less than 3 years old - on the upside, its been caught at a service, and there is no damage done.

Best advice is to get the system pressure tested as said above.

konrad.holl

Original Poster:

267 posts

234 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Thanks for all the replies biggrin.

As the steam is coming from somewhere far in the front (and not the vents closer to the windshield), I hope it's only the hoses which need tightening. Did anyone do that yet? Any tips or even pictures?

I'll additionally look for a garage to have the cooling system pressure tested.

Konrad

bignips

44 posts

234 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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Hi there,
I had this problem.
Came on after the same sort of time into each drive.
Ended up being a hole in the Rad (Saggy)
Was replaced and i couldn't believe how small the Rad was, though suppose i was comparing it to my upgraded one in my Rotary.
Pete.

cramorra

1,689 posts

264 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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I have done it and it is not really funny (and no pictures either)

Best is you start engine get it running till puffs come up and stop...
then open bonnet- obvious leaks yes/no
there are two types of radiators (both ally one with plastic expansion tanks on the ends- sometimes leak where plastic and ally joined together- and full ally ones which are aftermarket and acc to some dealers more prone to crack), also there are two different water in and outlets in radiators to make it a bit more confusing - TVR at it's best
if no obvious leak check for water on mentioned drainholes under air intake
then go into right hand side radiator opening with torch and hand (if engine not to hot), you will find a right angled hose pointing down- this was leaking in my case)
- if this is leaking- start swearing, jack up right side of car, remove wheel and plastic wheel arch - this is fixed with (? Nieten) so you have to drill them out, get hose out and replace (I really found a teabag when doing this on my car hence the comment.... Earl Grey I suppose and hidden there from the Russians...hehe)- then reverse game -a days job if you are DIY-ing- other hoses should be easier to change- I don't know where you could get new ones in the Vaterland as they are Custom made if you order here try ACT for silicone (less thermal instability)

a word about pressure testing- when my radiator went (about 2 months after above adventure banghead pressure testing was negative despite loosing water so make sure it's done properly)

I can only stretch the fact that the engine (if not leaking) will find it's level of water- so do not overfill
Good Luck

andyoleary

1,713 posts

242 months

Monday 26th November 2007
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I had a similar experience with my rad recently. Puffs of vapour coming out of the offside vent on my Tuscan after about 10mins driving. Tended to clear itself after a short while but was becoming worse so I had a look and found a small leak/fracture tucked in behind the rad. It had been pressure tested a couple of months ago when it first started (was early days then so not so bad) but no leaks were found as it was so small. Called the AA out and got it replaced on the breakdown repair/warranty policy.

Andy

cramorra

1,689 posts

264 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Hi Konrad got your radiator sorted yet???? Ever been out with her in the snow???

konrad.holl

Original Poster:

267 posts

234 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Hi Oliver,

I didn't have the chance to do anything yet (not even drive her).

The rhine valley (esp. the 'Weinstrasse' ) hasn't seen any snow yet... But I've been to a drift training in Hockenheim in September - lot's of fun biggrin

Cheers,

Konrad

hollowpockets

5,910 posts

245 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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you may be slightly paranoid there with these puffs, when my car is warming up, especially in winter as the water temp reaches 70c, i gets puffs of steam as the cold water sat on the radiator/that runs off bonnet, is heated. my car never seems to use water, i think in your case i'd get my head under there and tighten up all the jubilee clips on the hoses, they aint great so i replaced with new stainless jobbies which seem to get a better hold.

edited to add, from my experience its always better to try the simple fixes first.

Edited by hollowpockets on Thursday 13th December 11:49