How much better ARE regular P Zero's in damp cold weather

[cayman-black]

BravoV8V said:

Yep!

Aston I am sure no problem, Porsche on the hand anything to avoid paying out.

[controlz]

V8V Pete said:

No brainer if your worried about using the car in cold/wet but want to enjoy it at its best in the summer.

Well its mid-summer now and raining outside - That's the problem I have with semi-slicks in summer.. it's still the UK!!

[V12woollie]

controlz said:

Well its mid-summer now and raining outside - That's the problem I have with semi-slicks in summer.. it's still the UK!!

But is is not 7C or below. Having done the PDC in a V12V I can state from experience that you will get a lot of grip from Corsas even in the wet. The thing to avoid or drive slowly through is standing water which you don't tend to get a lot of in London.

[Minglar]

I know that today is not a cold day, but in my opinion the Corsas are not suitable for all year use in the UK. They are fantastic on a hot, dry summers day, but clearly they have weather related limitations and I think the fact that AM went on to approve the regular P-Zero shows that they are well aware of this. How many early adopters were warned on taking delivery of their cars to be careful in the wet and below 7C with regards to the Sport button? If I remember correctly there were actual documents which required signing too? We all know the V12V is a great drivers car, and the Corsas help this, but for those of us who do not want to have the hassle of changing tyres and wheels, plus the added pain of storage, the regular P-Zero offers a viable and sensible alternative. So if you are worried, go for either the regular P-Zero or perhaps the Michelin PSS. Let's not forget that a V12V is a road car first and foremost.

Best Regards

Minglar

[AdamV12V]

V12woollie said:

controlz said:

Well its mid-summer now and raining outside - That's the problem I have with semi-slicks in summer.. it's still the UK!!

But is is not 7C or below. Having done the PDC in a V12V I can state from experience that you will get a lot of grip from Corsas even in the wet. The thing to avoid or drive slowly through is standing water which you don't tend to get a lot of in London.

+1 the wet is not a problem for Corsa's not really any more so that it is for any tyre anyway. Its the cold that really reduces grip.

I suspect the problem you are experiencing is driving a car with 570nm of torque - its going to be able to spin the wheels in the wet with any tyres! What car are you coming out of driving at the moment?

[Little Donkey]

Just seen a pair of rear and a single front non corsa P zero tyres for a V12 are for sale in the classifieds....... Ahem!!

[ripley500]

Am I right in thinking that Corsas have less tread depth from new vs non-Corsa tyres or did I imagine this?

Mine is going in tomorrow for 4 x new tyres and I've asked for Corsas as that's what I have on now but non-Corsa were a bit cheaper and if they have more tread then even better 'value'!

TBH I find the Corsa in winter a bit of a joke - yes you can drive the car safely and it's no big deal but the traction control light is always flashing so you need a very gentle right foot when overtaking etc. Having read this thread I'm in two minds as to whether to go for non-Corsa - I just can't help thinking that Corsa tyres 'suit' the car better as it's more in keeping with the spirit

[controlz]

Minglar said:

I know that today is not a cold day, but in my opinion the Corsas are not suitable for all year use in the UK. They are fantastic on a hot, dry summers day, but clearly they have weather related limitations and I think the fact that AM went on to approve the regular P-Zero shows that they are well aware of this. How many early adopters were warned on taking delivery of their cars to be careful in the wet and below 7C with regards to the Sport button? If I remember correctly there were actual documents which required signing too? We all know the V12V is a great drivers car, and the Corsas help this, but for those of us who do not want to have the hassle of changing tyres and wheels, plus the added pain of storage, the regular P-Zero offers a viable and sensible alternative. So if you are worried, go for either the regular P-Zero or perhaps the Michelin PSS. Let's not forget that a V12V is a road car first and foremost.

Best Regards

Minglar

Amen

[quench]

Minglar said:

I know that today is not a cold day, but in my opinion the Corsas are not suitable for all year use in the UK. They are fantastic on a hot, dry summers day, but clearly they have weather related limitations and I think the fact that AM went on to approve the regular P-Zero shows that they are well aware of this. How many early adopters were warned on taking delivery of their cars to be careful in the wet and below 7C with regards to the Sport button? If I remember correctly there were actual documents which required signing too? We all know the V12V is a great drivers car, and the Corsas help this, but for those of us who do not want to have the hassle of changing tyres and wheels, plus the added pain of storage, the regular P-Zero offers a viable and sensible alternative. So if you are worried, go for either the regular P-Zero or perhaps the Michelin PSS. Let's not forget that a V12V is a road car first and foremost.

Best Regards

Minglar

Good grief. AFAIK no North American owners ever had to sign waivers for tires. Hard to believe you guys in the UK had to do this, particularly if the United States of Litigation never had to. As for "be careful in the wet", go ahead and fit the PZeros or PSS or whatever to your car, as long as it's not those deadly Corsas. If you stay clear of those, you will no longer have to pay any attention to your V12V wet or cold weather driving whatsoever.

[Zod]

quench said:

Good grief. AFAIK no North American owners ever had to sign waivers for tires. Hard to believe you guys in the UK had to do this, particularly if the United States of Litigation never had to. As for "be careful in the wet", go ahead and fit the PZeros or PSS or whatever to your car, as long as it's not those deadly Corsas. If you stay clear of those, you will no longer have to pay any attention to your V12V wet or cold weather driving whatsoever.

Yes. Absolutely no risk of losing rear-end grip in the wet, however clumsy your use of the pedals, just so long as you stay away from those deadly Corsas!