Manual vs Auto on the big GT

Manual vs Auto on the big GT

Poll: Manual vs Auto on the big GT

Total Members Polled: 62

3 pedal manual: 45%
Automatic (TT): 34%
Sportshift Equivalent: 21%
Author
Discussion

yeti

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

277 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Not the chav's pram that is the V8 Vantage, the flagship GTs, the DB9.2 and 310quish smile

I have read over and over again, and probably said it myself, that I would not buy one of these cars without a manual gearbox. However, I also wish to add that I would not buy one of these cars because I can't afford it smile

With all the anti-autobox ranting that goes on here, are Aston missing a trick? Could they sell a 1000 big GT cars a year with a manual gearbox or is it just the same half dozen or so on here who moan that it doesn't come with one. If it did, would they (and me) buy it?

Genuinely curious, because if this forum can be extrapolated across the ownership spectrum, Aston are missing a hell of a trick.

The other end of the question is; there is zero chance of a stickshift in the new cars... but what if they put in a robotic manual like Sportshift? Would that make the 'manual' posse think again, or does it have to be a 3 pedal car?

For me, the Sportshift box would conceivably make it a viable option in the future...

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

272 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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For me there is no replacement to rowing the gears. Automatic with paddles or sport shift with paddles are equally boring.

sukh_m

1,325 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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yeti said:
Not the chav's pram that is the V8 Vantage
Oi watch it you furious

It's a bloody good pram!! smile

marceltay

860 posts

158 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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yeti said:
or is it just the same half dozen or so on here who moan that it doesn't come with one.
My guess is, it is as you mention..

Maybe with a pole, (and hopefully everyone voting) we might finally understand why it is impossible to get the manual box on anything but the vantage now..

mikey k

13,014 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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We are a minority of AM owners on here, most people like convenience
I'd lay money more TT DBS were sold than manual when they were offered together
It also means AM can get & quote better CO2 figures (rather than building more cygnets wink )

Lunablack

3,494 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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I would buy an AM auto if I could be convinced that it was as good as its competitors offerings.... As I see it at the moment it falls some way short..

George29

14,708 posts

166 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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DCT all the way! All the benefits with no drawbacks. Don't listen to the manual brigade who are stuck in 1947 too... they're inferior in every way, the sooner they die out the better.

Jockman

17,925 posts

162 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Lunablack said:
I would buy an AM auto if I could be convinced that it was as good as its competitors offerings......
You do realise you said that out loud, Andy ???

Not that I believe a SINGLE word of it.....more likelihood of snow in hell yes

Lunablack

3,494 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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George29 said:
DCT all the way! All the benefits with no drawbacks. Don't listen to the manual brigade who are stuck in 1947 too... they're inferior in every way, the sooner they die out the better.
Don't forget.... Some of us old school guys know how to drive a manual......

You stick with your playstation...

Jon39

12,935 posts

145 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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When I mentioned the manual/auto choice at Gaydon, they said when the DB9 (or would it have been DBS) was offered with both gearboxes, there was very little demand for manual.

AMDBSNick

7,006 posts

164 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Sadly the majority of GT drivers don't want three pedals. As an aside go have a drive in the new DB9.2 and Vanquish


Speedraser

1,658 posts

185 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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KarlFranz said:
For me there is no replacement to rowing the gears. Automatic with paddles or sport shift with paddles are equally boring.
This.

yeti

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

277 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Jon39 said:
When I mentioned the manual/auto choice at Gaydon, they said when the DB9 (or would it have been DBS) was offered with both gearboxes, there was very little demand for manual.
Indeed, this is what they say, and it's backed up with sales figures!

But then why are so many people on here voting for manual? Virtually all dealer spec cars will always be auto. And as a customer you'd be strongly advised to get an auto which is a nice cost option for the dealer, you'll have no resale without it etc...

Not sure.


woolders

873 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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AMDBSNick said:
Sadly the majority of GT drivers don't want three pedals. As an aside go have a drive in the new DB9.2 and Vanquish
This from a young Git who swears by a manual box.

I will vote when the weather allows me to make comment on how the paddles work with the BM mods. I have a feeling that I will not be unhappy with what I have!

whoami

13,151 posts

242 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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AMDBSNick said:
Sadly the majority of GT drivers don't want three pedals. As an aside go have a drive in the new DB9.2 and Vanquish
They desperately need a dual clutch system to compete.

yeti

Original Poster:

10,523 posts

277 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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woolders said:
This from a young Git who swears by a manual box.
Welcome back me old fruit smile

If you'd had the choice at the time, same spec, colour and price... TT2 vs manual, what would you have chosen?

For me it was always going to be manual, although my TT1 DB7 Vantage was very good. I do understand that the TT2 is in a different league to TT1, but the priciple remains the same.

woolders

873 posts

159 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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OK, briefly. I drove manuals for ages but given the four rug rats attached, they were not sporty, apart from an Abbott Racing Saab turbo, which made them sick.

Since that a string of autos, XJR, Mitsubishi and Merc, which were all good, especially the Jag. The DB9 in auto is much better than them all. The other auto I have is a RR V8TD which is a great car.

In January, I bought a Mini Cooper six speed manual, which is the only manual I have had since 1998.

It is great fun but quite busy to drive.

Given the power difference, there is no way I can compare the experience in gear boxes but as Nick mentions, the paddles are pretty quick. Also, fingers don't tire as fast as wrists!

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

272 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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Jon39 said:
When I mentioned the manual/auto choice at Gaydon, they said when the DB9 (or would it have been DBS) was offered with both gearboxes, there was very little demand for manual.
This means absolutely nothing unless we know what percentage of cars made are spec'd by dealers vs. built-to-order by customers. I guarantee you that, at least in the US, dealers will almost exclusively order TT or SS cars over manuals. This, because most Americans never learn to drive a stick shift. I witness this at the dealer every time I'm there, customers want a test drive, when the salesperson asks if they can drive a stick, they say no. Sad really. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

272 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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George29 said:
DCT all the way! All the benefits with no drawbacks. Don't listen to the manual brigade who are stuck in 1947 too... they're inferior in every way, the sooner they die out the better.
How can anyone state "no drawbacks" so assertively and yet be so wrong. You really need to make fewer all-encompassing general statements, Georgie-boy. How about "no drawbacks for me". wink

George29

14,708 posts

166 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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KarlFranz said:
How can anyone state "no drawbacks" so assertively and yet be so wrong. You really need to make fewer all-encompassing general statements, Georgie-boy. How about "no drawbacks for me". wink
Because you cannot measure involvement, therefore if you compare the two on things that can be measured, the manual just doesn't come close.

Not to mention if they got a good dual clutch automated manual 0-60 times would probably come down which people seem to keep saying they want.