The new Vantage?
Discussion
CSK1 said:
Very brave colour choice but it kind of works on the DBX707. Never liked the now nearly old New Vantage in that colour though!
Lime Essence was always, and possibly still is, a polarising colour. Either a brave or stupid launch colour at the time depending on your point of view I guess. I think AML were trying to appeal to the sort of people who buy brash bright Lamborghinis, and even now you don’t see many Aston Martins in that colour. I’m fairly confident they won’t make the same mistake when this new car is launched. The colours chosen for DB12 press/launch cars were much better thought out, in particular the green one. So once again, fingers crossed that AML have learnt from the past. I’m still surprised that we aren’t any wiser about when this car will be released. Surely potential customers have seen it by now? I guess maybe they just don’t post on here anymore. 
BRM. Beckson said:
I remember the original Db9 press pics were slate blue over I think a red interior. combo somehow worked really well.
Don't see much slate blue anymore.
Slate Blue is a lovely colour; had it on my previous V12V.Don't see much slate blue anymore.
The DB9 press car(s) used extensively by the print and video media for the launch (Evo magazine, Top Gear, Fifth Gear IIRC) were Celeste Blue (another gorgeous colour, looking like a dusty silver or a light blue depending on the light) with Baltic Blue and bamboo interiors.
Can you imagine the DB9 launched in Lime Essence?
quench said:
Can you imagine the DB9 launched in Lime Essence?
I came across these comments.
Interesting, when thinking about the more radical design change in 2017.
Launched at the Frankfurt Motor Show on Tuesday, 9th September 2003, the Aston Martin DB9, is first car to be produced at the company's facility in Gaydon, Warwickshire. The innovative Aston Martin DB9 heralds an exciting new era for Aston Martin as it reflects the direction that the company is taking with all future models. Using a radical new aluminium bonded frame, the 2+2 Aston Martin DB9 is one of the most sophisticated and technically advanced sports cars in the world. It successfully balances the attributes of a sports car with features normally found on luxury cars.
DESIGN
The Aston Martin DB9 is a modern interpretation of a traditional Aston Martin sports car, representing a contemporary version of classic DB design elements and characteristics.
"We wanted an elegant, beautiful car - in keeping with Aston Martin tradition," says Director of Design Henrik Fisker. "I was of course acutely aware that Aston Martin is renowned for its superb styling. It has launched some of the most beautiful sports and GT cars ever seen."
Key traditional Aston Martin features incorporated into the Aston Martin DB9 include the distinctive grille, side strakes and clean, crisp, uncluttered lines.
Clean and elegant surfacing
"Aston Martins are not edgy cars - they don't have sharp surfaces or pronounced power domes," says Fisker. "The bodywork is elegant and gently curved, like a supremely fit person, with great muscle tone. But it is not like a body builder, who is bulky and out of harmony."
The side profile is very clean, with a single-sweep roofline. There is a pronounced boot - a noticeable feature of the Aston Martin DB4 and Aston Martin DB5 - and the haunches on the rear wings are wide and curvaceous.
"A great deal of time was spent on the detailing," says Fisker. "In particular, we wanted to cut down on fuss. There are very few cut or shut lines. Each of the headlamps is set in single apertures in the front wings."
Nor is there a separate nose cone, another typical source of sports car design fussiness. The aluminium bonnet runs all to the way to the leading edge of the car. "This accentuates the length of the bonnet and the power of the car," says Fisker. All front cut lines emanate from the grille. The Aston Martin DB9's bumpers are invisible. The front number plate is part of the crash structure and computer modelling has enabled Aston Martin to use invisible 'hard pressure zones' to cope with bumps.
"We wanted the Aston Martin DB9 to look like it was milled out of a single solid piece of aluminium," says Fisker. "No fussy detailing and a minimum of shut lines have helped."
The side strakes - an Aston Martin DB signature - are made from metal. The door handles are flush with the body opening the unique 'swan wing' doors, which rise at a 12-degree angle for improved access.
There are no visible gutters on the roof panel, and no visible drain channels at the front or rear windscreens. Nor are there any plastic 'dressing' plates.
Well I arrived at Aston via Porsche like someone else did earlier . I had owned a DB9 briefly some time back and enjoyed it thoroughly but apart from that I had never ventured near an Aston . I genuinely found the Jaguar X150 a far better prospect than any VH era Vantage and interestingly looking at the Autotrader the other day , current second hand values of both cars seem to bear this out , 4.3 or 4.7 . Of course its not an Aston but I wonder just how desirable a 4.3 Vantage with 58,000 miles and 4 previous Owners is ?
Getting back to Astons , I bought two of the " new " Vantages , a 20 plate without the bonnet vents in Melted Silver and a 21 plate with the bonnet vents and few more extras in Divine Red . I did realise before buying , that amongst the Aston Aristocracy on here I would be as welcome as Gary Glitter down the local creche but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the cars and was complimented by complete strangers on the cars aesthetics on an hourly basis , the Divine Red Car especially . I therefore completely ignore the comments about the new Vantage not being a " real " Aston . In terms of both reliability and durability the AMG input has transformed the car and its a great power plant with a beautiful linear power delivery . PPF is essential , so anyone considering making a purchase please be aware that the rear arches can take a proper hammering from road debris .
Well being a poor man I sold the Divine Red car a couple of weeks back before the depreciation sets in over the coming winter . I gave £100k for her and got out a few months later at £85k so not too bad .
At present I am contemplating an AMG GT R which of course shares an engine with the Vantage albeit in a slightly more powerful form . Its a fantastic engine . Although I gaze wistfully at a late DB9 I don't think I will be back in an Aston , I tend to use my cars daily and a DBS at 60 years of age doesn't seem that practical . I am looking forward to roaring across Shap in the GT R pretty soon . If there is anyone reading my pithy contribution and maybe contemplating a " new " Vantage then I would say go ahead , like someone mentioned earlier the Hunter grill doesn't show the car to its best advantage so go for the veined option instead . It runs the obligatory 911 pretty close which is something I was pleasantly surprised by and its great when you can give the thumbs up to any modern performance car , especially an Aston .
Getting back to Astons , I bought two of the " new " Vantages , a 20 plate without the bonnet vents in Melted Silver and a 21 plate with the bonnet vents and few more extras in Divine Red . I did realise before buying , that amongst the Aston Aristocracy on here I would be as welcome as Gary Glitter down the local creche but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the cars and was complimented by complete strangers on the cars aesthetics on an hourly basis , the Divine Red Car especially . I therefore completely ignore the comments about the new Vantage not being a " real " Aston . In terms of both reliability and durability the AMG input has transformed the car and its a great power plant with a beautiful linear power delivery . PPF is essential , so anyone considering making a purchase please be aware that the rear arches can take a proper hammering from road debris .
Well being a poor man I sold the Divine Red car a couple of weeks back before the depreciation sets in over the coming winter . I gave £100k for her and got out a few months later at £85k so not too bad .
At present I am contemplating an AMG GT R which of course shares an engine with the Vantage albeit in a slightly more powerful form . Its a fantastic engine . Although I gaze wistfully at a late DB9 I don't think I will be back in an Aston , I tend to use my cars daily and a DBS at 60 years of age doesn't seem that practical . I am looking forward to roaring across Shap in the GT R pretty soon . If there is anyone reading my pithy contribution and maybe contemplating a " new " Vantage then I would say go ahead , like someone mentioned earlier the Hunter grill doesn't show the car to its best advantage so go for the veined option instead . It runs the obligatory 911 pretty close which is something I was pleasantly surprised by and its great when you can give the thumbs up to any modern performance car , especially an Aston .
reddiesel said:
Well I arrived at Aston via Porsche like someone else did earlier . I had owned a DB9 briefly some time back and enjoyed it thoroughly but apart from that I had never ventured near an Aston . I genuinely found the Jaguar X150 a far better prospect than any VH era Vantage and interestingly looking at the Autotrader the other day , current second hand values of both cars seem to bear this out , 4.3 or 4.7 . Of course its not an Aston but I wonder just how desirable a 4.3 Vantage with 58,000 miles and 4 previous Owners is ?
Getting back to Astons , I bought two of the " new " Vantages , a 20 plate without the bonnet vents in Melted Silver and a 21 plate with the bonnet vents and few more extras in Divine Red . I did realise before buying , that amongst the Aston Aristocracy on here I would be as welcome as Gary Glitter down the local creche but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the cars and was complimented by complete strangers on the cars aesthetics on an hourly basis , the Divine Red Car especially . I therefore completely ignore the comments about the new Vantage not being a " real " Aston . In terms of both reliability and durability the AMG input has transformed the car and its a great power plant with a beautiful linear power delivery . PPF is essential , so anyone considering making a purchase please be aware that the rear arches can take a proper hammering from road debris .
Well being a poor man I sold the Divine Red car a couple of weeks back before the depreciation sets in over the coming winter . I gave £100k for her and got out a few months later at £85k so not too bad .
At present I am contemplating an AMG GT R which of course shares an engine with the Vantage albeit in a slightly more powerful form . Its a fantastic engine . Although I gaze wistfully at a late DB9 I don't think I will be back in an Aston , I tend to use my cars daily and a DBS at 60 years of age doesn't seem that practical . I am looking forward to roaring across Shap in the GT R pretty soon . If there is anyone reading my pithy contribution and maybe contemplating a " new " Vantage then I would say go ahead , like someone mentioned earlier the Hunter grill doesn't show the car to its best advantage so go for the veined option instead . It runs the obligatory 911 pretty close which is something I was pleasantly surprised by and its great when you can give the thumbs up to any modern performance car , especially an Aston .
Interesting views, Paul. Thanks for sharing. I know exactly what you mean about the X150’s. I had two in between my Vantage and Vantage S. Chatting to a Jaguar engineer a view years back, they thought they were they height of quality and started to make cars to a cost with the F Type (having had one I can see their point).Getting back to Astons , I bought two of the " new " Vantages , a 20 plate without the bonnet vents in Melted Silver and a 21 plate with the bonnet vents and few more extras in Divine Red . I did realise before buying , that amongst the Aston Aristocracy on here I would be as welcome as Gary Glitter down the local creche but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the cars and was complimented by complete strangers on the cars aesthetics on an hourly basis , the Divine Red Car especially . I therefore completely ignore the comments about the new Vantage not being a " real " Aston . In terms of both reliability and durability the AMG input has transformed the car and its a great power plant with a beautiful linear power delivery . PPF is essential , so anyone considering making a purchase please be aware that the rear arches can take a proper hammering from road debris .
Well being a poor man I sold the Divine Red car a couple of weeks back before the depreciation sets in over the coming winter . I gave £100k for her and got out a few months later at £85k so not too bad .
At present I am contemplating an AMG GT R which of course shares an engine with the Vantage albeit in a slightly more powerful form . Its a fantastic engine . Although I gaze wistfully at a late DB9 I don't think I will be back in an Aston , I tend to use my cars daily and a DBS at 60 years of age doesn't seem that practical . I am looking forward to roaring across Shap in the GT R pretty soon . If there is anyone reading my pithy contribution and maybe contemplating a " new " Vantage then I would say go ahead , like someone mentioned earlier the Hunter grill doesn't show the car to its best advantage so go for the veined option instead . It runs the obligatory 911 pretty close which is something I was pleasantly surprised by and its great when you can give the thumbs up to any modern performance car , especially an Aston .
As a daily driver I think the X150’s edge even my newer Vantage S; only let down was the slow sat nav.
Your points on the new Vantage are interesting. I’ve not driven one but my gut feeling is if I did, I suspect it would be great and an easier proposition as a daily.
Hope the GT R search goes well and don’t be a stranger - I’d love to hear how you think they compare.
ZT260SE said:
reddiesel said:
Well I arrived at Aston via Porsche like someone else did earlier . I had owned a DB9 briefly some time back and enjoyed it thoroughly but apart from that I had never ventured near an Aston . I genuinely found the Jaguar X150 a far better prospect than any VH era Vantage and interestingly looking at the Autotrader the other day , current second hand values of both cars seem to bear this out , 4.3 or 4.7 . Of course its not an Aston but I wonder just how desirable a 4.3 Vantage with 58,000 miles and 4 previous Owners is ?
Getting back to Astons , I bought two of the " new " Vantages , a 20 plate without the bonnet vents in Melted Silver and a 21 plate with the bonnet vents and few more extras in Divine Red . I did realise before buying , that amongst the Aston Aristocracy on here I would be as welcome as Gary Glitter down the local creche but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the cars and was complimented by complete strangers on the cars aesthetics on an hourly basis , the Divine Red Car especially . I therefore completely ignore the comments about the new Vantage not being a " real " Aston . In terms of both reliability and durability the AMG input has transformed the car and its a great power plant with a beautiful linear power delivery . PPF is essential , so anyone considering making a purchase please be aware that the rear arches can take a proper hammering from road debris .
Well being a poor man I sold the Divine Red car a couple of weeks back before the depreciation sets in over the coming winter . I gave £100k for her and got out a few months later at £85k so not too bad .
At present I am contemplating an AMG GT R which of course shares an engine with the Vantage albeit in a slightly more powerful form . Its a fantastic engine . Although I gaze wistfully at a late DB9 I don't think I will be back in an Aston , I tend to use my cars daily and a DBS at 60 years of age doesn't seem that practical . I am looking forward to roaring across Shap in the GT R pretty soon . If there is anyone reading my pithy contribution and maybe contemplating a " new " Vantage then I would say go ahead , like someone mentioned earlier the Hunter grill doesn't show the car to its best advantage so go for the veined option instead . It runs the obligatory 911 pretty close which is something I was pleasantly surprised by and its great when you can give the thumbs up to any modern performance car , especially an Aston .
Interesting views, Paul. Thanks for sharing. I know exactly what you mean about the X150’s. I had two in between my Vantage and Vantage S. Chatting to a Jaguar engineer a view years back, they thought they were they height of quality and started to make cars to a cost with the F Type (having had one I can see their point).Getting back to Astons , I bought two of the " new " Vantages , a 20 plate without the bonnet vents in Melted Silver and a 21 plate with the bonnet vents and few more extras in Divine Red . I did realise before buying , that amongst the Aston Aristocracy on here I would be as welcome as Gary Glitter down the local creche but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the cars and was complimented by complete strangers on the cars aesthetics on an hourly basis , the Divine Red Car especially . I therefore completely ignore the comments about the new Vantage not being a " real " Aston . In terms of both reliability and durability the AMG input has transformed the car and its a great power plant with a beautiful linear power delivery . PPF is essential , so anyone considering making a purchase please be aware that the rear arches can take a proper hammering from road debris .
Well being a poor man I sold the Divine Red car a couple of weeks back before the depreciation sets in over the coming winter . I gave £100k for her and got out a few months later at £85k so not too bad .
At present I am contemplating an AMG GT R which of course shares an engine with the Vantage albeit in a slightly more powerful form . Its a fantastic engine . Although I gaze wistfully at a late DB9 I don't think I will be back in an Aston , I tend to use my cars daily and a DBS at 60 years of age doesn't seem that practical . I am looking forward to roaring across Shap in the GT R pretty soon . If there is anyone reading my pithy contribution and maybe contemplating a " new " Vantage then I would say go ahead , like someone mentioned earlier the Hunter grill doesn't show the car to its best advantage so go for the veined option instead . It runs the obligatory 911 pretty close which is something I was pleasantly surprised by and its great when you can give the thumbs up to any modern performance car , especially an Aston .
As a daily driver I think the X150’s edge even my newer Vantage S; only let down was the slow sat nav.
Your points on the new Vantage are interesting. I’ve not driven one but my gut feeling is if I did, I suspect it would be great and an easier proposition as a daily.
Hope the GT R search goes well and don’t be a stranger - I’d love to hear how you think they compare.
Yes, new new Vantage or ex-Vantage if some of the rumours are correct. Not old new Vantage.
The drift is not surprising, not much is leaking out to the world on the plans for the facelift, apart from that which appears to have already been guessed - it looks like it is still going to feature the AMG V8 and get a different front end and dash/infotainment a la DB12.
Question is, will we and more importantly prospective buyers be able to sufficiently differentiate the driving experience between the ‘Super GT’ DB12 with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar and the new new ‘Super Sports’ (?) Vantage with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and (presumably..) old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar….
I hope so, and that loads of the fresh money around the world buys into the hype with aplomb and the company makes a pile of cash. The UK market is going to be tough, anyone seen the PCP interest rates these days……
The drift is not surprising, not much is leaking out to the world on the plans for the facelift, apart from that which appears to have already been guessed - it looks like it is still going to feature the AMG V8 and get a different front end and dash/infotainment a la DB12.
Question is, will we and more importantly prospective buyers be able to sufficiently differentiate the driving experience between the ‘Super GT’ DB12 with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar and the new new ‘Super Sports’ (?) Vantage with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and (presumably..) old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar….
I hope so, and that loads of the fresh money around the world buys into the hype with aplomb and the company makes a pile of cash. The UK market is going to be tough, anyone seen the PCP interest rates these days……
oilit said:
Are you saying you lost £15k over 3-4 months? I guess if you bought from and sold via MD you got off lightly….hope you got some fun miles in during that time!
Yes exactly as you say . I thoroughly enjoyed the car and I only made the post to encourage anyone sitting on the fence regarding the new Vantage . Its a fine machine and such a relief to have an option to the obligatory 911 .My apologies , I did realise the thread was regarding the new new Vantage but someone mentioned the new Vantage and the perceived negativity in owning one . I thought I would give my humble opinion based on owning two over the last year or so , thanks for the toleration .
Calinours said:
Yes, new new Vantage or ex-Vantage if some of the rumours are correct. Not old new Vantage.
The drift is not surprising, not much is leaking out to the world on the plans for the facelift, apart from that which appears to have already been guessed - it looks like it is still going to feature the AMG V8 and get a different front end and dash/infotainment a la DB12.
Question is, will we and more importantly prospective buyers be able to sufficiently differentiate the driving experience between the ‘Super GT’ DB12 with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar and the new new ‘Super Sports’ (?) Vantage with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and (presumably..) old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar….
I hope so, and that loads of the fresh money around the world buys into the hype with aplomb and the company makes a pile of cash. The UK market is going to be tough, anyone seen the PCP interest rates these days……
I think you are totally correct when you talk of it being a tough sale . Another conclusion I am rapidly coming to is what a bargain these " new ' Vantages are in danger of becoming . Already hitting the £80k mark I think in another year or so the Motoring Press will be all over these at £65k and it will be down to that Aston Martin badge and AMG durabilityThe drift is not surprising, not much is leaking out to the world on the plans for the facelift, apart from that which appears to have already been guessed - it looks like it is still going to feature the AMG V8 and get a different front end and dash/infotainment a la DB12.
Question is, will we and more importantly prospective buyers be able to sufficiently differentiate the driving experience between the ‘Super GT’ DB12 with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar and the new new ‘Super Sports’ (?) Vantage with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and (presumably..) old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar….
I hope so, and that loads of the fresh money around the world buys into the hype with aplomb and the company makes a pile of cash. The UK market is going to be tough, anyone seen the PCP interest rates these days……
Calinours said:
Question is, will we and more importantly prospective buyers be able to sufficiently differentiate the driving experience between the ‘Super GT’ DB12 with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar and the new new ‘Super Sports’ (?) Vantage with its new dashboard, evolved front end, e-diff, hopped up AMG V8 and (presumably..) old new Vantage chassis forward of the A-pillar….
Appreciate it's all super this and super that these days, but the Super Grand Tourer was the Vanquish/S: https://www.astonmartin.com/en-gb/models/past-mode...DB12 is the "World's First Super Tourer": https://www.astonmartin.com/en-gb/models/db12
Presumably because it's less grand than the Vanq.
It's going to be interesting to see what sells over the coming months. There's an interesting thread on the Porsche section with folk tracking how many new cars the dealers have ex-stock. It doesn't look pretty.
reddiesel said:
I think you are totally correct when you talk of it being a tough sale . Another conclusion I am rapidly coming to is what a bargain these " new ' Vantages are in danger of becoming . Already hitting the £80k mark I think in another year or so the Motoring Press will be all over these at £65k and it will be down to that Aston Martin badge and AMG durability
I noticed the same thing here. Was looking at the auto trader, and it’s a buyers market when looking for the new model Vantage. Great deals out there and tons of inventory. Probably most are lease returns. Dealers just wholesaling them out. $80k US, / that’s £65k. 50% in 2 years would be tough. But if you’re leasing you know that up front. Apart from what has already been mentioned by various posters, all I know so far is that the Next-Gen Vantage will likely be delivered around Q4 2024 and cost around 20% more than the outgoing model.
I have a deposit down on this Next-Gen model as an EOI.
Hoping AM give it their best.
I have a deposit down on this Next-Gen model as an EOI.
Hoping AM give it their best.
AlexT said:
Apart from what has already been mentioned by various posters, all I know so far is that the Next-Gen Vantage will likely be delivered around Q4 2024 and cost around 20% more than the outgoing model.
I have a deposit down on this Next-Gen model as an EOI.
Hoping AM give it their best.
I have a deposit down on this Next-Gen model as an EOI.
Hoping AM give it their best.
Q4 2024 is later than PHers had anticipated?
That presumably means a launch announcement next summer.
Why place an order and hand over a deposit for an unseen car ?
You could have one by ordering after it has been launched.
I suppose it might ensure an invite to a pre-launch Gaydon viewing.
I don’t think it’s that unusual to place a EOI/deposit on a car unseen. Is the deposit refundable should you change your mind after your private viewing? I’m a little surprised at the lead time though. I was kind of hoping we’d get to see this car before the end of this year, but from what you’ve said it seems unlikely now.
BRM.
BRM.
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