Vanquish - crashed
Discussion
yeti said:
I thought if the insurnace company paid out as a total loss, that's written off?
OP's description certainly suggests he was paid out completely.
They may not have paid out as a total loss. On occasions if the owner does not want a repaired car back he/she can take a cash in lieu settlement leaving the insurance company to do with the car whatever they want.OP's description certainly suggests he was paid out completely.
AMDBSNick said:
They may not have paid out as a total loss. On occasions if the owner does not want a repaired car back he/she can take a cash in lieu settlement leaving the insurance company to do with the car whatever they want.
Fair enough, I don't crash on principle so have never needed to claim 
I thought that was the definition of a 'write-off' but this is possibly what's happened here.Not sure there's a restless lynch mob here, I'd certainly be glad to know the sold-as-straight car I was looking at has had a pretty heavy accident. The pictures are of slightly more than a fender-bender.
I had the same situaton with my 996TT
Insurance company of the other driver bought it from me at full retail price. They took it directly from the garage who recovered it and I never saw it again. A few months later I had a nice letter from a guy in the Midlands who had bought it.
His letter stated that he was going to get the bodywork tidied up as it had a few marks, and would like to get hold of the service history and tool kit, spare keys etc.. and wondered if i could help.
I called him, he had no idea it was a "write off". Because the insurance company sold it on to a trader, he did the mechanical work (all 4 wheels were bent under, engine / gearbox 6 inches out of alignment, all rads broken) and tidied up the nearside (I was t boned and pushed across a road, up the high kerb and onto a railing!) there was no need to record the damage.
A sad case for both him, and whoever buys this car, either now, or in th enext few years as it changes hands.
Insurance company of the other driver bought it from me at full retail price. They took it directly from the garage who recovered it and I never saw it again. A few months later I had a nice letter from a guy in the Midlands who had bought it.
His letter stated that he was going to get the bodywork tidied up as it had a few marks, and would like to get hold of the service history and tool kit, spare keys etc.. and wondered if i could help.
I called him, he had no idea it was a "write off". Because the insurance company sold it on to a trader, he did the mechanical work (all 4 wheels were bent under, engine / gearbox 6 inches out of alignment, all rads broken) and tidied up the nearside (I was t boned and pushed across a road, up the high kerb and onto a railing!) there was no need to record the damage.
A sad case for both him, and whoever buys this car, either now, or in th enext few years as it changes hands.
It really makes me sick to the bone when people do this. Regardless of whether it is legal or not to disclose whether it has been an insurance write off. Judging by the email I think it is definitely a poor show to say the car is 'fully H.P.I clear' but then not disclose that it has been crashed outside of the UK and is an insurance write off, as that email clearly implies that it is a straight vehicle.
I recently drove a 5 hour round trip from Essex to Nottingham to look at a car, after asking on the phone if there was any history I need to know about the car (I should have probably been more specific), I went up to see it, again it was priced correctly for its mileage, age and spec, but upon inspecting the engine it was clear that there was some severe corrosion. After pressing the dealer, he finally admitted that it was a Cat D and had been driven through a river and left there!
After a heated exchange with the dealer we left, and the 5 hour round trip was marginally improved by stopping off and sampling the wonderful food at 'The George' in Stamford (I would thoroughly recommend eating there.)
I recently drove a 5 hour round trip from Essex to Nottingham to look at a car, after asking on the phone if there was any history I need to know about the car (I should have probably been more specific), I went up to see it, again it was priced correctly for its mileage, age and spec, but upon inspecting the engine it was clear that there was some severe corrosion. After pressing the dealer, he finally admitted that it was a Cat D and had been driven through a river and left there!
After a heated exchange with the dealer we left, and the 5 hour round trip was marginally improved by stopping off and sampling the wonderful food at 'The George' in Stamford (I would thoroughly recommend eating there.)
Edited by bigricho on Thursday 23 February 11:15
Lunablack said:
Dalto123 said:
Shame really, was such a stunning car. Hopefully something can/will be done to prevent the sale of and/or make sure the proper authorities are alerted.
You do know, it's not illegal to sell a car that's been in an accident don't you??Likewise, it's not illegal to sell a cat c or cat d car either
Of course I know, Its more the fact they aren't publishing that fact in the advertisement. Then again if they didn't know then I guess it wasn't their fault...The George in Stamford is very nice
I would assume this would never get past an Aston dealer would it?
and if someone hired an Aston techie to do a full check physical and material, could the details be found?
It is very concerning that this happens (and frequently) especially when people pay a lot of money for it!
Personally I'm very weary of "high street" dealers and private sale individuals when it comes to prestige cars. Unless y know them personally or they can be backed up say on this forum for example then it is somewhat a gamble. Even with certain checks available.
I would assume this would never get past an Aston dealer would it?
and if someone hired an Aston techie to do a full check physical and material, could the details be found?
It is very concerning that this happens (and frequently) especially when people pay a lot of money for it!
Personally I'm very weary of "high street" dealers and private sale individuals when it comes to prestige cars. Unless y know them personally or they can be backed up say on this forum for example then it is somewhat a gamble. Even with certain checks available.
I think we should all remember that main dealers also sell cars that have been in accidents....maybe not as bad as the Vanq but im sure cars that have had some serious knocks. The Vanq in question may not have been written off and the garage selling it may not be aware of its history
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
LordBretSinclair said:
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
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LordBretSinclair said:
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
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5 Owners in 9 years would make me wonder.....
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