Aston really are an embarrassement

Aston really are an embarrassement

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mojo21

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170 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mikey k said:
FFS as a few others have pointed out your very valid point to starting this thread has now withered and lost all credibility
Good luck with sorting your issues, though I doubt much support will be forthcoming from here rolleyes
Nice one. Pile in pally. Ignore the abuse I'm REACTING to

Superb post by the way

Jockman

17,934 posts

162 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mojo21 said:
George29 said:
And you're struggling to understand why people think you're a cock? confused
People don't THINK you're a cock!
+1 yes

To be fair though he doesn't moan about the mould on his roof nono

Jockman

17,934 posts

162 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mojo21 said:
Nice one. Pile in pally. Ignore the abuse I'm REACTING to

Superb post by the way
Mojo - are you bigger than 10' tall ??? smile

mikey k

13,014 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mojo21 said:
mikey k said:
FFS as a few others have pointed out your very valid point to starting this thread has now withered and lost all credibility
Good luck with sorting your issues, though I doubt much support will be forthcoming from here rolleyes
Nice one. Pile in pally. Ignore the abuse I'm REACTING to

Superb post by the way
To be expected I guess



yeti

10,523 posts

277 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mojo21 said:
Never once did I demean anyone who offered balanced input
Liar.

I deleted my earlier name-calling as it was unnecessary. But that isn't.

mikey k

13,014 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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anonymous said:
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Understandable - I've been through A LOT of warranty claims on both my cars (more than any other I've had)
I still love my S and enjoy it though
On the two points above
Paint finish and "corrosion" has got a lot better (and better than I've seen on 458's) since the introduction of the robotic sprayers and UV wipes clean down procedure. There are sometimes issues with certain colours that are hand painted (Lightning Silver like mine frown )
The patch of paint on the mirror I guess refers to the black paint on the arm, its a known issue and easily sorted.

Jockman

17,934 posts

162 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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anonymous said:
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+1

I have no qualms about posting up my pictures of poor paintwork if others can learn from it.

Nor do I have any qualms about congratulating JCT and AM for fixing it promptly both IN and OUT of warranty smile

lady topaz

3,855 posts

256 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Wow, leave you lot alone for five minutes and look what happens!

We don't know the OP's attitude with AM, but on here it doesn't come over too positive. I think it has been accepted that there is a paint, not corrosion problem which AM are reluctant to admit. On my V12V I too had it around the passenger door handle, but it was sorted without conflict.

Five years of ownership showed me that AM do care if you interact with them reasonably. I had a gearbox change on my V8V. My dealer was less than helpful but Works service were magnificent and dealt with all my issues that the local dealer didn't want to get involved with, paint included.

So enamoured by AM I am now on my quest to return. I have just ordered a new XKR convertible for £68,000 as I can get a baby seat in it.( tried and tested) . A lot of car for the money. Couldn't justify the dosh for a DBS, and my cunning plan is to get into my dream car V12V Roadster within a year or so if available.

You don't get rid of me that easily.

Play nicely guys, I'm watching you.

Di x


V8LM

5,179 posts

211 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Many manufacturers are explicit in stating both paint warranty and corrosion warranty. Jaguar for example - http://www.jaguar.com/gl/en/owner_support/warranty... - provide 3 years for paint defects.


IanV12VR

2,749 posts

157 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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lady topaz said:
my cunning plan is to get into my dream car V12V Roadster within a year or so if available.
Hope the plan works Di - just come back from a run in mine today and every time I drive it I just love it even more. You know how good the V12V is but without the roof the noise is just fantastic biglaugh

Jockman

17,934 posts

162 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Nice one Nanny Di - the Jag is a lovely car yes

The primary reason for Karen's used X5 (collect next week after Spain) is twofold: grandchild to be lifted in and out, with more to come, plus elderly parents who aren't going to get any more nimble as they age.

Funny how we come to a stage in our lives where we need to consider others in the purchasing decision !!

Regards to granddad Tony smile

George29

14,708 posts

166 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Jockman said:
The primary reason for Karen's used X5 (collect next week after Spain) is twofold: grandchild to be lifted in and out, with more to come, plus elderly parents who aren't going to get any more nimble as they age.
Make sure you get the side steps on it else you may struggle to get in smile

michael gould

5,691 posts

243 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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It would appear that Aston are suffering from " over promising and under delivering" but they are still wonderful fabulous cars that very few people have the pleasure to own and enjoy........just booked my Db9 in to have some paintwork done on one of the arches ......bloody bubbling paint would you believe.......now where's my 10 year warranty booklet .

MollyGTi

2,366 posts

156 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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mikey k said:
FFS as a few others have pointed out your very valid point to starting this thread has now withered and lost all credibility
Good luck with sorting your issues, though I doubt much support will be forthcoming from here rolleyes
PLUS ONE!!!

Well said MK

MollyGTi

2,366 posts

156 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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lady topaz said:
Wow, leave you lot alone for five minutes and look what happens!

We don't know the OP's attitude with AM, but on here it doesn't come over too positive. I think it has been accepted that there is a paint, not corrosion problem which AM are reluctant to admit. On my V12V I too had it around the passenger door handle, but it was sorted without conflict.

Five years of ownership showed me that AM do care if you interact with them reasonably. I had a gearbox change on my V8V. My dealer was less than helpful but Works service were magnificent and dealt with all my issues that the local dealer didn't want to get involved with, paint included.

So enamoured by AM I am now on my quest to return. I have just ordered a new XKR convertible for £68,000 as I can get a baby seat in it.( tried and tested) . A lot of car for the money. Couldn't justify the dosh for a DBS, and my cunning plan is to get into my dream car V12V Roadster within a year or so if available.

You don't get rid of me that easily.

Play nicely guys, I'm watching you.

Di x
Nice to know you are watching over us Di. Look forward to welcoming you back into the fold biggrin

mikey k

13,014 posts

218 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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michael gould said:
It would appear that Aston are suffering from " over promising and under delivering" but they are still wonderful fabulous cars that very few people have the pleasure to own and enjoy........just booked my Db9 in to have some paintwork done on one of the arches ......bloody bubbling paint would you believe.......now where's my 10 year warranty booklet .
They are celebrating 100 years of it this year hehe

MollyGTi

2,366 posts

156 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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anonymous said:
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Stu, nice to see you here but I'm afraid I can't agree with you on this one. To be fair we do have to credit you with getting Rob & I into this whole AM thing in the first place (credit/blame!! -whats the difference?) and you were an AM owner before us. Yes, Rob had the wing mirror corrosion thing as above but it was dealt with under warranty with no problems and no cost - can't ask fairer than that.

You've got to be joking if you have 'binned the brochure of the Aston you were considering' because some embittered nutcase comes onto the AM PH forum and tries to upset the happy campers because he hasn't had the answers he had hoped for. Since when did every manufacturer manage to keep all their warranty complainants happy?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, it would be really nice if we could all get back to chatting about the random, vaguely Aston Martin related, topics that we usually do. I hope someone is going to agree with me that there is an awful lot more to love about the brand and the privilege of owning said brand than there ever are things AM related to whinge about.

yeti

10,523 posts

277 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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MollyGTi said:
I hope someone is going to agree with me that there is an awful lot more to love about the brand and the privilege of owning said brand than there ever are things AM related to whinge about.
Agree 100% Mollypops though hopefully this doesn't make me a nazi sympathiser again...

I don't look at the brand through rose tinted specs, but I am realistic about a small volume manufacturer.

michael gould

5,691 posts

243 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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MollyGTi said:
anonymous said:
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Stu, nice to see you here but I'm afraid I can't agree with you on this one. To be fair we do have to credit you with getting Rob & I into this whole AM thing in the first place (credit/blame!! -whats the difference?) and you were an AM owner before us. Yes, Rob had the wing mirror corrosion thing as above but it was dealt with under warranty with no problems and no cost - can't ask fairer than that.

You've got to be joking if you have 'binned the brochure of the Aston you were considering' because some embittered nutcase comes onto the AM PH forum and tries to upset the happy campers because he hasn't had the answers he had hoped for. Since when did every manufacturer manage to keep all their warranty complainants happy?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, it would be really nice if we could all get back to chatting about the random, vaguely Aston Martin related, topics that we usually do. I hope someone is going to agree with me that there is an awful lot more to love about the brand and the privilege of owning said brand than there ever are things AM related to whinge about.
Have to agree with Molly.......I don't know you but I have this image in my head of a big camp tart throwing the Aston brochure in the bin and screaming......" Right, that's it, I'm not having one"

I think you were really going to buy a pink Cadillac and had no intention of buying an Aston !

steveatesh

4,925 posts

166 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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anonymous said:
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Isn't some perspective due here? Most if not all cars have problems, you only have to spend some time on the Porsche forum to realise that with some long running threads about serious engine problems. Far as I can tell the affected models and year still sell despite the issues being common knowledge. Having just got a Porsche into the family an engine mounting went after four month and 1000 miles. My Merc is starting to show signs of rust on the inner wheel arches at 7 years old. My Z4 had a major engine rebuild at 22000 miles ( which I had to pay for), and the roof motor went last year, again a well known fault on them, along with leaking doors. Hundreds of pounds for a design fault, but BMW didnt give a penny. But they still sell ok. Then there is the infamous security issue with later BMW cars being easy to steal via a computer and blank key. BMW didn't admit the problem despite all of the evidence ( they might have put their hands up now?). And sticking with BMW a problem with their 2ltr Diesel engine involving a simple part that gets sucked into the engine requiring an expensive rebuild. And a problem on one of the latest Porsche engines with a 10p rubber washer, causing very expensive repairs. Problems on Range Rovers electrics abound apparently, I know my neighbours was in for weeks and they never sorted it. He ended up swapping it for an Aston and had no trouble, he's onto his third now.

I have no doubt there's more. Yes I agree problems shouldn't happen and I've experienced most of all the known issues on my Vantage. However, AM did put everything right without quibble and I guess for a small niche manufacturer with low volumes it can take longer for faults to emerge and be corrected in the supply chain or design, plus hand assembled means introducing the enemy of all things manufactured - variation.

Plus, although this thread has reached 17 pages ( some of which involved the usual off thread ramblings of the permanently bewildered regulars wink ) but it is still only a very low number of owners. Problems on Internet threads should always be balanced by the fact people are far more inclined to moan than they are to write good things, and usually represent only a very small sample of the cars on the road.

Have I loved my Aston? Yes. Was I disappointed at some of the niggly issues? Yes. Would I buy another? Definately Yes I would, because they are fabulous in so many other ways.

Maybe we need a thread (another one) to balance this one with how many have not had these paint issues?



Edited by steveatesh on Wednesday 12th June 01:07

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