DB9 turned up to 11? Bamford Rose work starts tomorrow.

DB9 turned up to 11? Bamford Rose work starts tomorrow.

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yeti

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Thursday 31st January 2013
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Stuart Dickinson said:
Lewis, I would love to see this car run a standing mile once it is finished.
A mile or a quarter mile? heard of people doing quarters but yes, a car this heavy and an engine this big would really benefit from a full mile. A quarter is just about getting a good start...

What is there at Santa Pod, just a quarter mile? Would love to do it, I wonder if the Vmax days measure a mile..?

Stuart Dickinson

998 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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yeti said:
Stuart Dickinson said:
Lewis, I would love to see this car run a standing mile once it is finished.
A mile or a quarter mile? heard of people doing quarters but yes, a car this heavy and an engine this big would really benefit from a full mile. A quarter is just about getting a good start...

What is there at Santa Pod, just a quarter mile? Would love to do it, I wonder if the Vmax days measure a mile..?
No, definitely needs to be the full-fat mile! Even 1/4 mile is getting to be pretty short for today's supercars, hypercars and stuff like the twin-turbo gallardos or PPR's Ford GT (they ran a mind-blowing 283MPH trap speed in the standing mile.)

1/4 mile times can be much more heavily influenced by gearing, or much more biased towards AWD setups. With the setup you'll have, you're absolutely right, it would only be getting into stride at the 1/4 mile mark. I would be really interested to see what kind of times it would run. There's not been enough Aston representation in these events!!! I know the standard for a stock Corvette ZR1 is usually around 172-173MPH. I think the DB9 is probably a little more slippery, with your mods I'd be betting you could crack the 180MPH mark, maybe 185? Would love to see it happen, hope you get the chance!!!

Stuart Dickinson

998 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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http://www.uklandspeedracingassociation.co.uk/

It looks like these guys do standing mile events, there was a bunch of stuff on a Hayabusa forum about doing standing miles at Elvington, but it looks like they are trying to organize an event in Suffolk?

Only bikes by the look of it, but maybe they would let you jump in there?

zepe

78 posts

184 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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I know it's indecent, but is there an estimate of how much this engine and install would cost once its sorted?

George29

14,708 posts

166 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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yeti said:
I'm awesome though yes
Modest too smile

MollyGTi

2,365 posts

156 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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yeti said:
Stuart Dickinson said:
Lewis, I would love to see this car run a standing mile once it is finished.
A mile or a quarter mile? heard of people doing quarters but yes, a car this heavy and an engine this big would really benefit from a full mile. A quarter is just about getting a good start...

What is there at Santa Pod, just a quarter mile? Would love to do it, I wonder if the Vmax days measure a mile..?
Our friend Roger the Red Renault Racing Rascal is planning an event that might interest you Lewis (over on Petrolhead Nirvana).

http://www.petrolheadnirvana.com/torque/showthread...

Edited by MollyGTi on Thursday 31st January 19:58

George29

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166 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Can you not just do a VMax event? Should easily break 200mph on one of those (if your gearing will allow it?) cool

F1 NDW

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148 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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mikey k said:
yeti said:
Another first as well... I discussed with Mike as to whether I could have a bigger fuel tank fitted but it wasn't practical; anyone who has been on a run with me knows that I always run out of fuel as my tank is 20 litres smaller than everyones elses (Volante) frown So Mike is going to fit cylinder deactivation on numbers 1/4/6/10 which means at cruise speeds it will do about 30mpg! Because of the exotic valvetrain components the engine will not need the rich running that normal V12s need to cool the metal temperatures. I will be running a much leaner air:fuel ratio.
Good idea!
But it's not going to make any difference on our day's out Lewis. I dont think cruising is ever on the itinery!

dom9

8,103 posts

211 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Lewis - do you mind sharing the cost of this conversion?

I noticed a post on SELOC where you suggested a significant amount (I won't repeat here in case you don't want it in an even more public domain).

yeti

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Thursday 31st January 2013
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dom9 said:
Lewis - do you mind sharing the cost of this conversion?

I noticed a post on SELOC where you suggested a significant amount (I won't repeat here in case you don't want it in an even more public domain).
It's being done in stages and Bamford Rose are looking after me very well - some of the costs will be taken by them for development of course but the cost is considerable as you would expect.

You pay for what you get, and this will be a work of automotive art and an engineering masterpiece.

Final costs... We'll see where we end up, as always.

yeti

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Thursday 31st January 2013
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George29 said:
Can you not just do a VMax event? Should easily break 200mph on one of those (if your gearing will allow it?) cool
Roof on or roof off? Needs the aero advantage of the roof, but will the roof survive at that speed scratchchin

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

154 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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yeti said:
So Mike is going to fit cylinder deactivation on numbers 1/4/6/10.... weeping
Lewis....hate to mention this but that means you will have......12 cylinders minus 4 cylinders.....ie EIGHT CYLINDERS biggrin

George29

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166 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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yeti said:
Roof on or roof off? Needs the aero advantage of the roof, but will the roof survive at that speed scratchchin
I'd say try roof off to start with. You can always move to roof on if it doesn't succeed. Was yours one of the limited top speed models? I'm sure the roof could take it but you never know.

I'm trying to find somewhere where I can top 200mph on my R1. The bike will do it but it's hard finding a straight long enough!

George29

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Thursday 31st January 2013
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Tony V12V said:
Lewis....hate to mention this but that means you will have......12 cylinders minus 4 cylinders.....ie EIGHT CYLINDERS biggrin
But look at the cylinders that are deactivated. It doesn't make a V shape!

MichaelV8V

650 posts

263 months

Thursday 31st January 2013
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Tony V12V said:
Lewis....hate to mention this but that means you will have......12 cylinders minus 4 cylinders.....ie EIGHT CYLINDERS biggrin
You're right. After all that work on the valve train, exhaust, cams, suspension, wheels and brakes etc., the only thing left that could possibly improve the car is to make it into a V8! Brilliant laugh

mikey k

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218 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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MichaelV8V said:
You're right. After all that work on the valve train, exhaust, cams, suspension, wheels and brakes etc., the only thing left that could possibly improve the car is to make it into a V8! Brilliant laugh
clap that's going to sting laugh

yeti

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Friday 1st February 2013
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MichaelV8V said:
You're right. After all that work on the valve train, exhaust, cams, suspension, wheels and brakes etc., the only thing left that could possibly improve the car is to make it into a V8! Brilliant laugh
Actually the way I look at it... the only way to make it perform like a performance-stunted economy box shopping car was to make it a V8 smile

Touche?

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

154 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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yeti said:
MichaelV8V said:
You're right. After all that work on the valve train, exhaust, cams, suspension, wheels and brakes etc., the only thing left that could possibly improve the car is to make it into a V8! Brilliant laugh
Actually the way I look at it... the only way to make it perform like a performance-stunted economy box shopping car was to make it a V8 smile

Touche?
yes

Or you could have the best of both worlds and tell us you have an 8 cylinder DB9V shopping trolley AND a 12 cylinder DB9VBR mile muncher...which in cylinders per pound means you have 20 cylinders... I think confused

jonby

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159 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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Regardless of cost, which whatever anyone says is still an issue, the other effect of the lack of fuel effeciency of Aston engines is of course the limited range

I wish there was an option on my car to enlarge the tank

I am hoping to go down the road of manifolds (the 'cheaper' version :-) ), cams, primary cat removal, secondary cat replacement to 200 cell.........I guess that's effectively more lance & armstrong......what effect if any do these changes have on fuel consumption ? I know it's a difficult one to answer conclusively because these conversions may change your driving style making it an unfair comparison

But say on a cruise and on a spiritied drive, have those who've had this work done noticed much difference in consumption ?

AMDBSNick

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164 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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Tony V12V said:
yes

Or you could have the best of both worlds and tell us you have an 8 cylinder DB9V shopping trolley AND a 12 cylinder DB9VBR mile muncher...which in cylinders per pound means you have 20 cylinders... I think confused
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