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Hi I need help with my Aston Martin DB9 V12 2005 Year
I have just recently purchased this vehicle, Ive got a few problems...
My passenger door doesn't open from the inside of the car at all, it will open from the outside does anyone know what this could be?
My glovebox latch doesn't work either so everytime im driving it keeps falling down does anyone know where I can purchase a latch from?
My LH Rear side light doesn't work either however my break light does and my indicator does to, my RH side rear light doesn't work at all
except the indicator? Would this be the lights or would it be the driver/fuse?
Need your help please Urgently and can anyone reccommend me a independant Aston Martin garage as they are to expensive, preferably based
in the Midlands?
Thanks
I have just recently purchased this vehicle, Ive got a few problems...
My passenger door doesn't open from the inside of the car at all, it will open from the outside does anyone know what this could be?
My glovebox latch doesn't work either so everytime im driving it keeps falling down does anyone know where I can purchase a latch from?
My LH Rear side light doesn't work either however my break light does and my indicator does to, my RH side rear light doesn't work at all
except the indicator? Would this be the lights or would it be the driver/fuse?
Need your help please Urgently and can anyone reccommend me a independant Aston Martin garage as they are to expensive, preferably based
in the Midlands?
Thanks
tonysing123 said:
can anyone reccommend me a independant Aston Martin garage as they are to expensive, preferably based
in the Midlands?
I think you have misunderstood the thread you have posted in. It is the sponsored area of an independent Aston Martin specialist based in the Midlands. So you are asking them directly rather than the forum, as Mikey has mentioned above.in the Midlands?
Give them a call, please and they can help you, none of your problems sound serious but you might need new light units.
[quote=BamfordMike]Apart from announcing that Bamford Rose is proud engine supplier of choice and the powerhouse behind team GT4 / VLN Mathol Racing, winners of the Aston Martin Racing Global Challenge 2012 title, and the pleasure we have reporting and discussing the many upgrade projects Bamford Rose has completed for happy owners which transform and enhance the ownership experience.... Jessica, Lance, Armstrong, Diablo Blanco to name but a few.... What I report here for project 'Purdy' rates as one of the most pleasing for Bamford Rose to deliver and report.
These are great times for us to be around the brand, in this special 100 years anniversary Bamford Rose will deliver 5.0L V8 Vantage 'S' @ 550BHP, AKA project 'Johnny 550' and 6.5L V12 @ 650BHP DB9 AKA project 'Yeti'. When these and other Bamford Rose upgraded cars join Lance at Spa during one of the factory organised track days later this year, we will showcase how Aston's can dynamically compete with the best other brands have to offer, meaning whilst sporting the best 'face' in the world, Bamford Rose will prove Aston's can have the 'legs' to match too, but only with the special touch that only Bamford Rose can apply.
Today however it is Purdy's time to take centre stage......!
After all the work Jessica has had performed on her by BR boys following Rob's experiences and Mikey's also I kinda wish I had Paddles and seven gears !! ho hum I am sure they will come up with a suitable option !!
I said this report was pleasing to make because the upgrade and improvement we report here resolves numerous critical comments from many journalists around the globe concerning / commenting on the not so good / far from best in class driveability and driving experience returned from the Automated Shift Manual (ASM) gearbox system found in Vantage 'S' and in ASM1 guise in previous 4.3 and 4.7L Sportshift models.
In summary journalist, potential owners 'put off' by the driver interaction with the gearbox and many current owners living with the system state the same common critical appraisal concerning the factory's gearbox solution. Brought to ultimate conclusion these comments conclude there is a disparity between the statement the factory makes about how cars in this day-and-age should not have shift sticks fitted, yet the ASM hardware / technology used to deliver the strategy of deleting the clutch pedal and manual control of gears and control of gears with paddles is lacking finesse in execution.
The ASM / Sportshift system is 1)a gearbox that could have manual control fitted but has 2)a hydraulic solenoid pack bolted to the side of it that via paddles and 3)a Magneti Marelli control brain selects gears using our infamous friends the 4)heavy OEM flyheel and weak singleplate clutch.
The poor driveability and disappointing driver interaction with the gearbox system is a result of this mix of ingredients and comments from journalists and drivers alike can be summarised as;
Slow to execute in D mode, gear change both up and down the box and during these shifts the 'nodding dog' situation of the drivers head nodding forward at start of shift and snapping backwards when torque is reapplied to road wheels.
Not the best or most intuitive response in D mode concerning throttle pedal application and the gear selected and the time taken to achieve these requests.
In paddle mode, although delivering fairly quick shifts, shift quality / experience is detracted from by a 'thud' in the driveline. This is important because although we all want rapid sports car like shifts, we must not lose the quality feel a luxury car should have. Also, the 'S' often feels it is crashing through the box in paddle mode and many owners have worriedly commented and questioned me about this asking if there is any longer term mechanical damage looming, those of us who drive with mechanical sympathy in mind correctly question this state of gear change.
So.... in true Bamford Rose fashion... let's upgrade and correct this....
Purdy is the Bamford Rose development car for this task, and the result.....
Any journalist or the most critical of driver / potential owner can now put Purdy or any car upgraded with Bamford Rose ASM upgrade pack featured here thorough its paces and their end conclusions will be agreement that correction of all areas of critique previously mentioned have been addressed, and if going through a check list of how a ASM gearbox should perform, Purdy / this upgrade pack returns textbook control, driveability and puts a MASSIVE smile on the drivers face......!!!!!
To sum this mod up simply, I would say the Bamford Rose ASM upgrade pack delivers in 'D' mode via different applications of the throttle pedal, intuitive gear selection / performance and behaviour that the driver would previously have had to use the paddles to achieve. And now when in full Sport paddle mode, gear selection is nothing short of lightening fast, as good as gearboxes with DSG hardware. Yet the revelation here is that whilst gear selection is superfast, the 'thud' the previous hardware delivered when going through the gears has now gone completely due to the upgraded powerful Bamford Rose twinplate clutch.
So here is Purdy with proud and lucky owners RobGT and MollyGTi...
Purdy has already had Botox, add some previous Bamford Rose magic with the new....
Here is the exhaust manifold and catalyst upgrade with the new booty - a lightweight flywheel and twinplate organic Bamford Rose upgraded clutch.
A reminder of the power Purdy now delights her owners with;
The upgraded Bamford Rose lightweight flywheel has dramatically improved throttle responsiveness by reducing the time the engine takes to reach the redline, even though there is no power increase associated with this part, the reduced time the engine takes to rev to the redline significantly improves in-gear acceleration time, yet, low speed driveability remains as perfectly controllable as standard and so does return to idle control and speed of idle control which remains at 750rpm - as if it left the factory in this faultless way yet now is improved and upgraded.
So... now this is how a sports car should rev from idle to the Redline limit - simply electric... press the pedal and start the egg timer transforms into blink and you will miss it...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWXrBD0kZ10
With the help of the supremely powerful Bamford Rose twinplate organic clutch, the improved engine response translates into super fast selection of the gears in paddle mode. Here is the car in action on full throttle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iETpRo-vmvQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyFMEk80GjU
The throtle was fully pressed at 4800 rpm, the rate of change of engine speed to redline is simply ballistic, not just is progression more rapid but this is an attack on all senses, noise is glorious as is the sensation of shoulders pinned to the back of the seats all the way to the redline, and then again, and again through the gears. The downshift through the gears are much faster yet smoother, there are no jolts as occurs with standard hardware.
100mph traction control events require Bamford Rose upgrades...!
(of course, we were on test track for this and even if we were on the road our update of the control brain has resulted in incorrect speedometer reading for those of blue collar persuasion).
D Mode operation is not simply improved, but is perfection. Silky smooth gear changes without the nodding dog head movement during shifts, and now with better control of the Magneti Marelli control brain, 'kick-down' or blips of throttle return lightening quick downshift control, 6-3 downshift @ 35 seconds / 7-4 shift @ 45 seconds. From start to 35 seconds we drive sedately proving that there are no compromises to comfort arising from this package, yet even in D mode when the pedal is prodded (post 35 secs into video) the shifts change into the sports car like feel that journalists wished for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaMYZhvMOM
The factory has clearly struggled with the precise driveability and gear control from birth of Sportshift system through to present day Vantage 'S'. So for Bamford Rose to pick up where the the factory left of when product was delivered into production was always going to be a difficult task for us. Yet we have more than succeeded in our solution and what makes this project more satisfying than handing back a car to happy owner (Rob and Amanda you will love Purdy even more for this work..!) for me, is that Bamford Rose can offer a route for new owners entering the brand whereas before the problem driveability meant selection of a different car for them.
After all the work Jessica has had performed on her by BR boys following Rob's experiences and Mikey's also I kinda wish I had Paddles and seven gears !! ho hum I am sure they will come up with a suitable option !!
These are great times for us to be around the brand, in this special 100 years anniversary Bamford Rose will deliver 5.0L V8 Vantage 'S' @ 550BHP, AKA project 'Johnny 550' and 6.5L V12 @ 650BHP DB9 AKA project 'Yeti'. When these and other Bamford Rose upgraded cars join Lance at Spa during one of the factory organised track days later this year, we will showcase how Aston's can dynamically compete with the best other brands have to offer, meaning whilst sporting the best 'face' in the world, Bamford Rose will prove Aston's can have the 'legs' to match too, but only with the special touch that only Bamford Rose can apply.
Today however it is Purdy's time to take centre stage......!
After all the work Jessica has had performed on her by BR boys following Rob's experiences and Mikey's also I kinda wish I had Paddles and seven gears !! ho hum I am sure they will come up with a suitable option !!
I said this report was pleasing to make because the upgrade and improvement we report here resolves numerous critical comments from many journalists around the globe concerning / commenting on the not so good / far from best in class driveability and driving experience returned from the Automated Shift Manual (ASM) gearbox system found in Vantage 'S' and in ASM1 guise in previous 4.3 and 4.7L Sportshift models.
In summary journalist, potential owners 'put off' by the driver interaction with the gearbox and many current owners living with the system state the same common critical appraisal concerning the factory's gearbox solution. Brought to ultimate conclusion these comments conclude there is a disparity between the statement the factory makes about how cars in this day-and-age should not have shift sticks fitted, yet the ASM hardware / technology used to deliver the strategy of deleting the clutch pedal and manual control of gears and control of gears with paddles is lacking finesse in execution.
The ASM / Sportshift system is 1)a gearbox that could have manual control fitted but has 2)a hydraulic solenoid pack bolted to the side of it that via paddles and 3)a Magneti Marelli control brain selects gears using our infamous friends the 4)heavy OEM flyheel and weak singleplate clutch.
The poor driveability and disappointing driver interaction with the gearbox system is a result of this mix of ingredients and comments from journalists and drivers alike can be summarised as;
Slow to execute in D mode, gear change both up and down the box and during these shifts the 'nodding dog' situation of the drivers head nodding forward at start of shift and snapping backwards when torque is reapplied to road wheels.
Not the best or most intuitive response in D mode concerning throttle pedal application and the gear selected and the time taken to achieve these requests.
In paddle mode, although delivering fairly quick shifts, shift quality / experience is detracted from by a 'thud' in the driveline. This is important because although we all want rapid sports car like shifts, we must not lose the quality feel a luxury car should have. Also, the 'S' often feels it is crashing through the box in paddle mode and many owners have worriedly commented and questioned me about this asking if there is any longer term mechanical damage looming, those of us who drive with mechanical sympathy in mind correctly question this state of gear change.
So.... in true Bamford Rose fashion... let's upgrade and correct this....
Purdy is the Bamford Rose development car for this task, and the result.....
Any journalist or the most critical of driver / potential owner can now put Purdy or any car upgraded with Bamford Rose ASM upgrade pack featured here thorough its paces and their end conclusions will be agreement that correction of all areas of critique previously mentioned have been addressed, and if going through a check list of how a ASM gearbox should perform, Purdy / this upgrade pack returns textbook control, driveability and puts a MASSIVE smile on the drivers face......!!!!!
To sum this mod up simply, I would say the Bamford Rose ASM upgrade pack delivers in 'D' mode via different applications of the throttle pedal, intuitive gear selection / performance and behaviour that the driver would previously have had to use the paddles to achieve. And now when in full Sport paddle mode, gear selection is nothing short of lightening fast, as good as gearboxes with DSG hardware. Yet the revelation here is that whilst gear selection is superfast, the 'thud' the previous hardware delivered when going through the gears has now gone completely due to the upgraded powerful Bamford Rose twinplate clutch.
So here is Purdy with proud and lucky owners RobGT and MollyGTi...
Purdy has already had Botox, add some previous Bamford Rose magic with the new....
Here is the exhaust manifold and catalyst upgrade with the new booty - a lightweight flywheel and twinplate organic Bamford Rose upgraded clutch.
A reminder of the power Purdy now delights her owners with;
The upgraded Bamford Rose lightweight flywheel has dramatically improved throttle responsiveness by reducing the time the engine takes to reach the redline, even though there is no power increase associated with this part, the reduced time the engine takes to rev to the redline significantly improves in-gear acceleration time, yet, low speed driveability remains as perfectly controllable as standard and so does return to idle control and speed of idle control which remains at 750rpm - as if it left the factory in this faultless way yet now is improved and upgraded.
So... now this is how a sports car should rev from idle to the Redline limit - simply electric... press the pedal and start the egg timer transforms into blink and you will miss it...!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWXrBD0kZ10
With the help of the supremely powerful Bamford Rose twinplate organic clutch, the improved engine response translates into super fast selection of the gears in paddle mode. Here is the car in action on full throttle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iETpRo-vmvQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyFMEk80GjU
The throtle was fully pressed at 4800 rpm, the rate of change of engine speed to redline is simply ballistic, not just is progression more rapid but this is an attack on all senses, noise is glorious as is the sensation of shoulders pinned to the back of the seats all the way to the redline, and then again, and again through the gears. The downshift through the gears are much faster yet smoother, there are no jolts as occurs with standard hardware.
100mph traction control events require Bamford Rose upgrades...!
(of course, we were on test track for this and even if we were on the road our update of the control brain has resulted in incorrect speedometer reading for those of blue collar persuasion).
D Mode operation is not simply improved, but is perfection. Silky smooth gear changes without the nodding dog head movement during shifts, and now with better control of the Magneti Marelli control brain, 'kick-down' or blips of throttle return lightening quick downshift control, 6-3 downshift @ 35 seconds / 7-4 shift @ 45 seconds. From start to 35 seconds we drive sedately proving that there are no compromises to comfort arising from this package, yet even in D mode when the pedal is prodded (post 35 secs into video) the shifts change into the sports car like feel that journalists wished for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaMYZhvMOM
The factory has clearly struggled with the precise driveability and gear control from birth of Sportshift system through to present day Vantage 'S'. So for Bamford Rose to pick up where the the factory left of when product was delivered into production was always going to be a difficult task for us. Yet we have more than succeeded in our solution and what makes this project more satisfying than handing back a car to happy owner (Rob and Amanda you will love Purdy even more for this work..!) for me, is that Bamford Rose can offer a route for new owners entering the brand whereas before the problem driveability meant selection of a different car for them.
After all the work Jessica has had performed on her by BR boys following Rob's experiences and Mikey's also I kinda wish I had Paddles and seven gears !! ho hum I am sure they will come up with a suitable option !!
tonysing123 said:
Hi I need help with my Aston Martin DB9 V12 2005 Year
I have just recently purchased this vehicle, Ive got a few problems...
My passenger door doesn't open from the inside of the car at all, it will open from the outside does anyone know what this could be?
My glovebox latch doesn't work either so everytime im driving it keeps falling down does anyone know where I can purchase a latch from?
My LH Rear side light doesn't work either however my break light does and my indicator does to, my RH side rear light doesn't work at all
except the indicator? Would this be the lights or would it be the driver/fuse?
Need your help please Urgently and can anyone reccommend me a independant Aston Martin garage as they are to expensive, preferably based
in the Midlands?
Thanks
Hi...I have just recently purchased this vehicle, Ive got a few problems...
My passenger door doesn't open from the inside of the car at all, it will open from the outside does anyone know what this could be?
My glovebox latch doesn't work either so everytime im driving it keeps falling down does anyone know where I can purchase a latch from?
My LH Rear side light doesn't work either however my break light does and my indicator does to, my RH side rear light doesn't work at all
except the indicator? Would this be the lights or would it be the driver/fuse?
Need your help please Urgently and can anyone reccommend me a independant Aston Martin garage as they are to expensive, preferably based
in the Midlands?
Thanks
None sound serious issues.
Passenger door requires door card removal and examination of latch / lock. Could be simple cable or could need new latch mech. 5 hours labour at tops and parts.
Glovebox latch; could be existing part requires adjustment or requires new parts that cost pennies and short time to install. This sounds like an 'at home fix' to me...
Rear light, sounds like LED's failed, whole new light required would be my guess as cannot repair individual LED strips. Parts best sourced second hand of tinternet and hour or so to fit - simple.
Drop us a line if you need any further help.
PS: we are in the midlands and value for money..!
mikey k said:
Amazing
Transforms the ASM2 box
I was out in mine on Thursday and mine is A LOT slower to rev out, change up or down.
I also revisited one of my reasons for Johnny 550 hitting the limiter on an overtake
Roll on the summer
When is Rob getting it back?
We have the electronic switchable suspension to fit this week then Rob will be battering down the door to collect her. Although he better run fast, looks like Molly might beat him and collect Purdey first...Transforms the ASM2 box
I was out in mine on Thursday and mine is A LOT slower to rev out, change up or down.
I also revisited one of my reasons for Johnny 550 hitting the limiter on an overtake
Roll on the summer
When is Rob getting it back?
Jedi4727 said:
Mike, will the same "magic" transform the sportshift of the 4.3L ? Or is your development only valid for the new gearbox of the V8S ?
Hi.Yes.. Magic can be applied to all sportshift applications.
We have already upgraded a 4.3L Sportshift with this system, well almost...
Instead of the twinplate organic clutch the customer opted for the twinplate sintered material clutch. I do not advise the sintered material clutch for Sportshift but the customer (Gareth, another pistonhead member, please comment to this if you can Gareth) wanted sintered to avoid ever having to replace the clutch again.
Sintered is a 'fit and forget' clutch for life. There is little clutch performance benefit from sintered over organic (for this twinplate clutch at least), but one main benefit is sintered will not wear out whereas organic will in time (but is still considerably longer life than factory singleplate clutch). The trade off is that sintered comes with a digital on / off type feel / operation and whilst that can be modulated by driver in manual cars, sportshift brain can not cope and a slight judder at pull away is the end result.
The organic material clutch delivers perfectly smooth driveability at all conditions and now with BR recalibration / modifications; pull away driveability is smoother, gear changes are faster for both Upshift and downshift and clutch life is significantly increased. But the biggest revelation is say goodbye to the nodding dog head movement between gear changes in D and the D mode actually becoming useable..!
BamfordMike said:
We have the electronic switchable suspension to fit this week then Rob will be battering down the door to collect her. Although he better run fast, looks like Molly might beat him and collect Purdey first...
Ah, so you noticed my other post on Rob's thread then:pommehogster said:
"Hey Rob, When are you expecting Purdey Back ? Just as a precautionary warning brace yourself as having the new lightweight flywheel and clutch will massively change Purdey.
As for the inlet manifold Jessica has been assisting BR with the development and this is going to be ballistic.
I do hope you have purchased some big boy pants and have worked out driving routes to include V power stops, as I think you will be visiting frequently."
Funnily enough Ben I made Rob a very good offer this evening! I'm up to London with his daughter next Monday & coming back by train on Tuesday so I suggested I return via BR and bring Purdey back for him. Can you believe he turned me down?!?
te until such times as Dr Mike works his magic on it pommehogster said:
After all the work Jessica has had performed on her by BR boys following Rob's experiences and Mikey's also I kinda wish I had Paddles and seven gears !! ho hum I am sure they will come up with a suitable option !!
Funny you should say that... I actually thought the same thing 
Mike, If the flywheel/clutch is purchased, can the recalibration/modification to ASM be performed by others, for those of us on the other side of the pond?
BamfordMike said:
The organic material clutch delivers perfectly smooth driveability at all conditions and now with BR recalibration / modifications; pull away driveability is smoother, gear changes are faster for both Upshift and downshift and clutch life is significantly increased. But the biggest revelation is say goodbye to the nodding dog head movement between gear changes in D and the D mode actually becoming useable..!
Nick it isn't that ASM2 is Sh.te . I would still prefer it in its original state over an auto . It's more that the box needs understanding. Evo claim that it is a slightly sluggish auto . This is not the case , it is an Automated manual with paddle shift. Downchanges were always good , when you changed up you back off the throttle as you would in a manual , then it was fine. People drive it as you would an auto that is when changes become a bit slow. To compound this AM in their wisdom fitted a D for drive button. This is when the gearchanges are truly awful . Once when I was at the factory I questioned the need in fitting this facility, they claimed it was to give their customers all the options!! Both Molly and I never use the D option. Why would you? We like to use the paddles because the drive is more involving. In fact that is why she chose her new car because it has a DSG box. It was something of a joke between us that her new Polo would have a superior change to my S despite costing a fifth of the price.
It would appear that Bamford Mike has brought about some serious changes (no pun intended) Apparently my box has been transformed into another dimension. I can't wait to get her home.
It would appear that Bamford Mike has brought about some serious changes (no pun intended) Apparently my box has been transformed into another dimension. I can't wait to get her home.
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