Manual v Sportshift

[yeti]

bigeckfaetherigs said:

Yeti - without having to trawl the forums; any idea on the cost of this and roughly what is the life span of the standard auto clutch?

I genuinely don't know the cost of the BR twin-plate clutch and flywheel, give them a call/drop them a mail. But they expect it will last pretty much the life of the car! Mine was installed 18 months 15k miles ago and is a little different to other clutches

The standard clutch on a Sportshift car (unless you mean auto/DB9 which doesn't have a clutch, just a torque converter)... how long is a piece of string? Depends entirely on the driver and the use of the car. 10k is not unusual, nor is 30k!

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[yeti]

X7LDA said:

Yes, as above, some people think they are better.

As with everything - it's personal preference. I doubt you'll be disappointed with either once you are used to them.

I like a three-pedal manual myself, but I'm old fashioned.

[jonby]

I've done extensive miles in vantages with both boxes

I know I'm not supported by everyone in this view, but to me, sportshift is closer to manual than it is to touchtronic (torque convertor auto) or even DSG/twin clutch automated manual

Some of the posts above highlight the problems in D mode, but I don't see that as a disadvantage. After all, no-one complains about the lack of D mode with a 3 pedal manual. Providing that's the way you look at it, there are no issues

Yes, you can make (significant) improvements to the D mode with BR or going for a later car with ASM2 in the V8S but I go back to the point, compare it to a manual car in which you have to change gears yourself every time and the whole thing becomes more logical

As for learning how to drive it, well again just think of yourself in a manual car - you'd lift off the gas to change gear. Same with sportshift.

[PiloteAM]

yeti said:

X7LDA said:

Yes, as above, some people think they are better.

As with everything - it's personal preference. I doubt you'll be disappointed with either once you are used to them.

I like a three-pedal manual myself, but I'm old fashioned.

Yes, same here.

Around town, I don't think many people would argue that a three pedal manual beats SS1 or 2 for smoothness (don't know about 3 yet) - on the open road it's just a matter of preference.

[X7LDA]

PiloteAM said:

yeti said:

X7LDA said:

Yes, as above, some people think they are better.

As with everything - it's personal preference. I doubt you'll be disappointed with either once you are used to them.

I like a three-pedal manual myself, but I'm old fashioned.

Yes, same here.

Around town, I don't think many people would argue that a three pedal manual beats SS1 or 2 for smoothness (don't know about 3 yet) - on the open road it's just a matter of preference.

To be honest, I maybe would (and I'm not just saying that). It depends on the traffic I guess, however my SS1 is much easier to live with in traffic than my old heavy manual and much smoother once you get used to it. Unless you slip the life out of the manual clutch.