DB9 v Virage

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MacGee

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2,513 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Just been to JCT in leeds. ..I cant see any difference in appearance of the new vbirage they've got and a one year old DB9...is there any?

Bravo73

1,858 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Do you mean the difference between the new DB9 and a one year old Virage?

There are plenty of differences between the original DB9 & a Virage.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,614 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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Virage vs new DB9 ----> Virage + DBS boot lid = new DB9

michael gould

5,691 posts

243 months

Wednesday 24th April 2013
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DB9VolanteDriver said:
Virage vs new DB9 ----> Virage + DBS boot lid = new DB9
+ upgraded VVT engine

iluvmercs

7,541 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Don't forget the "Virage" lettering stitched into the headrests and above the glove box wink

Darren

Edited by iluvmercs on Thursday 25th April 01:26

DB9VolanteDriver

2,614 posts

178 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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michael gould said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Virage vs new DB9 ----> Virage + DBS boot lid = new DB9
+ upgraded VVT engine
Yes, but unless you have x-ray vision, that doesn't affect appearance...

brakedwell

1,229 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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and the revert to "Drive" facility in the right hand paddle nerd

cardigankid

8,849 posts

214 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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I think that the absence of a manual gearbox option is a huge pity.

MacGee

Original Poster:

2,513 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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check out these two..only a minor difference in the front skirty thing...but identical. Interior looks same. Engine less torque in the Virage.

https://used.astonmartin.com/en-GB/Search/Details~...

https://used.astonmartin.com/en-GB/Search/Details~...

George29

14,707 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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michael gould said:
DB9VolanteDriver said:
Virage vs new DB9 ----> Virage + DBS boot lid = new DB9
+ upgraded VVT engine
Also isn't the engine position changed? I.e. it's sat lower or further back or something like that.

Bravo73

1,858 posts

176 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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MacGee said:
check out these two..only a minor difference in the front skirty thing...but identical. Interior looks same. Engine less torque in the Virage.
If you think that they look the same, then you need to tune your eyes into 'AM mode'.

There are quite a few differences between the two that you have listed. The front (splitters & grill) are different and the back end is different as well.

Now, if you want similar, compare the Virage that you've listed with the new DB9:





Can you tell which is which? wink

mikey k

13,012 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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bottom is the virage?

Jockman

17,917 posts

162 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Top is Virage - as per the bonnet vents yes

Edit - just looked on the website and even the bloody vents are the same confused

Edited by Jockman on Thursday 25th April 10:19

mikey k

13,012 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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You're right
I cheated the JCT one is the Virage bow

Jockman

17,917 posts

162 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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I'm sticking with the top one anyway Mikey....probably for all the wrong reasons though wink

jonby

5,357 posts

159 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Externally, difference is effectively just the bootlid spoiler - don't think anyone within or outside AM disputes that

Virage was poor marketing - it was meant to replace the DB9 and AM suddenly lost their bottle at dropping the DB9 name but couldn't decide what to do so adopted their typical confusing half ar***d approach that did nothing but cause confusion and damage

Once they realised what the rest of the world recognised in about 30 seconds, DB9 name took on the virage shape

The differences between virage & DB9 are effectively under the skin - new DB9 has later gen chassis which improves handling, weight and new passenger safety laws (how high & far back the engine is) plus the vanquish engine, which has VVT (so for instance can take advantage of higher octane fuel), more torque, etc. Then mildly detuned and understated on paper so it doesn't look too close to the vanquish !!!

PS Just change the para above - initially I said 'virage has later gen chassis' instead of 'new DB9 has'



Edited by jonby on Thursday 25th April 11:00

mikey k

13,012 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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jonby said:
Externally, difference is effectively just the bootlid spoiler - don't think anyone within or outside AM disputes that

Virage was poor marketing - it was meant to replace the DB9 and AM suddenly lost their bottle at dropping the DB9 name but couldn't decide what to do so adopted their typical confusing half ar***d approach that did nothing but cause confusion and damage

Once they realised what the rest of the world recognised in about 30 seconds, DB9 name took on the virage shape

The differences between virage & DB9 are effectively under the skin - virage has later gen chassis which improves handling, weight and new passenger safety laws (how high & far back the engine is) plus the vanquish engine, which has VVT (so for instance can take advantage of higher octane fuel), more torque, etc. Then mildly detuned and understated on paper so it doesn't look too close to the vanquish !!!
Interesting
Makes a used Virage a good buy then!

jonby

5,357 posts

159 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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mikey k said:
jonby said:
Externally, difference is effectively just the bootlid spoiler - don't think anyone within or outside AM disputes that

Virage was poor marketing - it was meant to replace the DB9 and AM suddenly lost their bottle at dropping the DB9 name but couldn't decide what to do so adopted their typical confusing half ar***d approach that did nothing but cause confusion and damage

Once they realised what the rest of the world recognised in about 30 seconds, DB9 name took on the virage shape

The differences between virage & DB9 are effectively under the skin - virage has later gen chassis which improves handling, weight and new passenger safety laws (how high & far back the engine is) plus the vanquish engine, which has VVT (so for instance can take advantage of higher octane fuel), more torque, etc. Then mildly detuned and understated on paper so it doesn't look too close to the vanquish !!!
Interesting
Makes a used Virage a good buy then!
Good question

Virages have asking prices of mid 90s

Just realised huge typo above ! new DB9 has the new chassis, not virage !

New DB9s starting to appear with low mileages 120-130 but you can buy a brand new unregistered one with a few extras for mid 120s i.e. the same money

I thought the virage made the better buy but I have a mate who drove them back to back and decided the differences in the engine to new db9 were significant enough he wanted the latter

Bearing in mind that unless you are BRing it, I personally don't see these as the most hardcore of sports cars, I'm not sure I agree, certainly for the huge cost difference, but that's what makes the world go round !

AMDBSNick

7,000 posts

164 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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Ade at BR reckons the Virage is a good long term bet

mikey k

13,012 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April 2013
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jonby said:
Just realised huge typo above ! new DB9 has the new chassis, not virage !

New DB9s starting to appear with low mileages 120-130 but you can buy a brand new unregistered one with a few extras for mid 120s i.e. the same money

I thought the virage made the better buy but I have a mate who drove them back to back and decided the differences in the engine to new db9 were significant enough he wanted the latter
Now that makes more sense that the newer DB9.2 would be an improvemnt over the Virage