V12V Spec

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Looking for advice please guys on the do's and don't of buying a V12V

What spec and colours are favoured ?

Black looks good to me but said I would never own one privately due to showing scratches etc....

Whats special or Limited about the Carbon Edition ? Is the paint more resiliant ?

Any advice gratefully accepted as always.

I'm looking to be persuaded to buy but my main concerns are :

1. Car too heavy to be fun to drive
2. Reliability and running costs
3. Can look all too similar to a £30k V8 Vanatage

Can anyone persuade me ( in an unbiased way )differently ?

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All sounds very positive but my only test drive was 3 months ago on a cold and rainy day and I was very disappointed but TBH it was a fair reflection on the car.

Will it handle anything like my F430 and be as exciting ar is the weight making it more of a GT crusier ?

I want an exciting 3rd car for dry summer weekend use only in reality and as such it has to be something that wants me to move other cars out the way and get it out of the garage just to go for a random blast on some A and B roads for fun

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Cockernee said:

Where do we start? Can you afford one? If so, drive it, if not Or you will sell a leg to buy one

It is awesome to drive, it is reliable even when used on the odd trackday, getaways or if you fancy a good thrash. Not that I have ever done any of these Be prepared for an average of 14MPG and a service every year at around £1K - £1.2K.

Not if you park them side by side they don't The V12 has a more aggressive stance, carbon bonnet louvres and other carbon bits (tat for Georgio) that do set it apart.

It looks great, it sounds great and it is just the biggest grin to drive. In a V8V you work hard to keep the engine on the boil, a V12V is on the boil from tickover.

In fairness if you need convincing, you have not driven one.

Problem is I did drive one but in the wet and TBH it was scary. Cold corsa tyres in the rain are not ideal and as such I was disappointed.
You are correct I do need to drive one again but in the dry to be convinced

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Does Morning Frost white work on an Aston V12V or is it going to be a nightmare disposing of in 2/3 yeras time ?

Also whats the difference between Carbon Black and Onyx Black. Is Onyx a metallic ?

Any thoughts appreciated

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cayman-black said:

Carbon Black, Morning Frost,Mako or Sratus would be my selection.Maybe Ceramic Gery?
Preferably with Chancellor red interior.

There is a private morning frost car with red interior in the classifies at £85k. Pictures dont do it justice but for me both white and red would be a little too much. Lovely combo but I'm thinking MF white and black is risky enough.

White is popular now but it is a fashionable colour and only suits certain cars. I'm not saying it doesn't look good on a V12V but I just don't see it as a typical Aston Martin customers colour and that might hit you hard on resale. I'm sure dealers would view it at least £3k less than a safer colour

Understated/classy Black, silver and Greys seem to be the norm with an Aston

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v12woollie said:

There is a new MFW V12V at a dealer near me. Still there and still a deal to be done. It is stunning and nearly the one I bought but the man maths just couldn't do it.

I can get the man maths to work until I consider what it will be worth in 2 years.

A 2 year old 873 mile full spec car carbon black Lightweights seats B & O car was up at £94k and sold in 3 days but if £94k was asking price and he got a bit of a deal or over allowance then its more like £90k.

List of £150k to £90k in 2 years and for 873 miles - ooch !

At what price will these cars find their level?

People are already talking about discounting the S to be competitive and that will only push prices down further.

Potentially scary times I don't know but I certainly wouldn't want to lose more than £10k a year on a V12V ?

Whats peoples thoughts on used values or new (old car ) prices / deals ?

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whoami said:

That went for pretty much asking price.

Also, the £150K list price is a complete red herring as no one ever paid that.

So the list prices are over - inflated to heavily discount ? Just like Tesco saying everything is on half price so you think you have bagged a bargain

Personally I thought that particular car, spec and miles, at £94k was good value but it now makes other used cars look expensive and new car deals ridiculous unless you are talking about £40k discounts.

Aston may be desperate to sell out the old model but whats realistic to expect and do people theink the V12V will become a classic as the last of the manuals ?

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Have been offered finally what amounts to £30k off list and pushed them hard to get more but that seems to be the bottom line. An extra £10k would make the man maths and 1st year depreciation more palatable.

Don't know whether to buy the so called £30k off list £111k brand new car or a second hand 2011 car ( as new condition 1 owner, 6,000 mile ) at £90k.

Whats likely to lose less over the next 2 years and 6,000 miles ? Once these cars are gone are the residuals going to firm up across the board for the V12V or will Aston heavily discount the new S in a panic and push them even lower. I can't call that one not knowing the brand very well but a few posts on here suggest a used £90k V12V will be lucky to be worth £65k trade in 2 years time.

Any advice appreciated

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AdamV12V said:

Are the two cars idential spec or do you prefer one over the other? If it were me I would buy the new one as I always prefer new than used, but I'm assuming the last £20k isn't decisive to you? Everybody has a limit somewhere...

As for which one will loose the least - well I think thats pretty simple, the used car of course! Sure the later ones might end up being more desirable but I would place a small wager they will still loose more cash in real terms over the same time period. At the end of the day if you spend less, you have less to loose. If depreciation is your biggest worry then, minimise your outlay!

That said my last V12V, which I bought new, before trading in for my current and also new V12V, lost less than £10k p/a. I was very happy, hence jumped into another one.

As I'm only looking to go into one as a 2 year stop gap until i buy something "special" depreciation or minimalising it is a high priority. I am used to losing £10k pa but with the buying /selling premium of changing as well I don't want it to become £30k over 2 years

I agree that buying the right spec is still important and fortunately there are a couple of alternatives both new and used but for the £20k price difference and 6,000 miles the used car condition is good and therefore the stronger proposition.

I'm almost there but having test drove one the other day I did find the driving position a lttle awkward.
I'm only 5'9" and short legs so I sit quite far forward for a bloke and that made the gear stick quite far back for me changing gear. Elbow was almost behind me when changing to 2nd,4th and 6th. Problem is that if I move the seat back to get a more comfortable arm position I'm then struggling to fully depress clutch which lead to both poor clutch and accelerator control on a steep hill start.
The clutch was also quite heavy comapared to my daily drive and all in all I'm still not convinced it gives me that driving experience I'm looking for on a 4th car for only dry summer sunday driving.

Are there any other short ar5e5 who have this issue ? Do you just adapt and get used to it ? A 20 min test drive doesn't really answer that question

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jonby said:

mikey k reckons the lightweight seats make the issue worse - what was in the car you test drove ?

I find clutch relatively light for this kind of car

In mine, for different reasons, I went for the V8 gearstick which is shorter

It was with lightweight seats which are a must have option for me. All my current and past cars have had them but its only the Aston that I had issues with regards the gear stick position being too far back.

Dont get me wrong its obviously driveable and you would probably get used to it or adapt but I don't think it adds to the experience