Full carbon body Time Attack Supra
Discussion
Gazboy said:
cptsideways said:
So what did it weigh in the end?
1290kg wet.The tube framing should take it to 1250kg, the brakes will save a bit and the new turbo may save a smidge, I'll estimate at 1240kg wet.
More I think about it, the more in two minds I become. From what I've read he's wanting to use a much smaller turbo, which will save a bit of weight and wont have the massively complex cage installed either, believe his is aiming to be quite simple. Not convinced those carbon panels save much weight seeing as theyre really just replacement skins for a thin guage steel panel, the metal bracing is mostly still there.
On the other hand, they've cut masses out of that carbon clad one's metal work!
On the other hand, they've cut masses out of that carbon clad one's metal work!
See, at this stage you do have to start to wonder, why are they still mucking about with the original chassis? Just make a tube frame from scratch and hang the bodywork on it, theres next to no supra there any more.
As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
emicen said:
See, at this stage you do have to start to wonder, why are they still mucking about with the original chassis? Just make a tube frame from scratch and hang the bodywork on it, theres next to no supra there any more.
As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
I'm loving it, but I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday!As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
Unless it is for a specific class of racing that requires the original chassis to be retained, it must be cheaper (and arguably better) to start from scratch!
Great thread though!
dom9 said:
emicen said:
See, at this stage you do have to start to wonder, why are they still mucking about with the original chassis? Just make a tube frame from scratch and hang the bodywork on it, theres next to no supra there any more.
As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
I'm loving it, but I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday!As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
Unless it is for a specific class of racing that requires the original chassis to be retained, it must be cheaper (and arguably better) to start from scratch!
Great thread though!
lolSeriously though i saw a spaceframed cossy engiend cortina or somehting in one of the perofrmance ford mags. Looked great and the frame let you put things where you wanted them. and you can make them as strong as you want!
Chris.
Gaz. said:
dom9 said:
emicen said:
See, at this stage you do have to start to wonder, why are they still mucking about with the original chassis? Just make a tube frame from scratch and hang the bodywork on it, theres next to no supra there any more.
As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
I'm loving it, but I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday!As incredible a project as it is, its not really a Supra anymore imho.
Unless it is for a specific class of racing that requires the original chassis to be retained, it must be cheaper (and arguably better) to start from scratch!
Great thread though!
The same guy owns a GT300 Sylvia S15 for trackdays, I'm certain that it's not elligable for the Norse Time Attack series though as it's a space frame.
This car, courtesy of being part tubed would have to race in the prototype class, same as Andy Gallacher's fully tube framed Focus. Dont know if the Norse rules match up with the UK on that one but I suspect it would.
TBH, if I was entering a car against this one in time attack, I'd spit the dummy if that wasnt the case.
This is so fu**ing awesome. Every single idea I would ever have to build a race car is in this car. How cares if an rx7 can be more light, it is a race car COMPLETLY CARBON FIBER TOYOTA SUPRA WITH A HUGE TURBO!!!!. Just some people does not understand what carbon fiber and supra means. Congratulations for an excellent race car building job. Now to kick asses and brake some records!!!
RJDM3 said:
As impressive as it is, i just cant see the point in using CF for this, yes its light, but other materials almost as light at a fraction of the cost.
Objectively, I have to say that you are correct. The return in weight saving is near impossible to justify on a £ per lb basis.Building show cars, dream cars, company show cases, project cars, race cars and labour-of-love cars isn't about justifying expenditure against measurable returns in performance, at least not at anything below the ultimate professional level of F1 and alike.
I'm glad that the OP is building this car in this manner, and accepts that the returns on his investment in terms of performance / resale can never be objectively justified. That's not why we improve and build machines to our own specifications. It's about much more than that which cannot be measured with a pound sign.
Full Budget GRP body Time Attack Supra wouldn't have quite the following as this machine
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