So where are all the GT86's/BRZ's??
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Depends on what the owner driver wants. For my current requirements it's perfect - no complaints about the car at all*.
If I wanted a gutsy street/traffic light racer it's feeble and if I want something 'practical' to carry three mates it's crap.
Ignore ALL reviews and evaluate for yourself.
* Toyota dealers on the other-hand are pants. The three local to me are anyway.
If I wanted a gutsy street/traffic light racer it's feeble and if I want something 'practical' to carry three mates it's crap.
Ignore ALL reviews and evaluate for yourself.
* Toyota dealers on the other-hand are pants. The three local to me are anyway.
Edited by LordGrover on Wednesday 10th October 16:47
daveknott5 said:
Great to see quite a few PH'ers have taken the plunge. So what do you reckon, are EVO wrong and all the other mags right? or is the car good, but not quite great....?
Stick a renault badge on it and ECOTY 2012 Joking aside they never seem to like the cars I like anyway. I'd have another s2000 tomorrow if the insurance wasn't so stupid (and I didn't have a gt86) and I'd take a new 172 cup over any other renaultsport. I've had two trophys, tracked one of them and they never felt as raw or as fun as my 172 cup. Didn't like any of the mx5s I've driven. I had an evante which was a based on the s1 lotus elan and I loved that thing though. R500POP said:
RichyBoy said:
Looks like ecu reflash is in order. Apparently it learns your driving style the first 100 miles and expects you to drive that way forever
That sounds like bksThe garage 'it learns your driving style' thing is meaningless, keeping the taps wide open everywhere doesn't get you onto the 'race' throttle map as there is only one map.
However on old cars (like my 2002 Bmw 330) some dirt can get into parts and suddenly full throttle is 0.34V, therefore its worth resetting the ECU so it can learn the new sensor values.
Love the 86s, will definitely consider one when an inevitable pushbike downgrade removes my current need for an estate.
Sales so far have been piss poor. New registrations in 2012 (with some competitors):
MX-5: 1,738
RCZ: 1,421
Boxster: 390
GT-86: 161
You have to factor in that the GT-86 has only been for sale for approx half the year so far, however halving the others sales numbers still results in GT-86 coming last. This is a pretty terrible sales figures for a car so hyped. The Boxster figures are low due to the old generation being phased out, I'd expect the new model to treble sales at least. As I predicted Toyota have fked up badly due to overpricing the car.
MX-5: 1,738
RCZ: 1,421
Boxster: 390
GT-86: 161
You have to factor in that the GT-86 has only been for sale for approx half the year so far, however halving the others sales numbers still results in GT-86 coming last. This is a pretty terrible sales figures for a car so hyped. The Boxster figures are low due to the old generation being phased out, I'd expect the new model to treble sales at least. As I predicted Toyota have fked up badly due to overpricing the car.
Olivera said:
Sales so far have been piss poor. New registrations in 2012 (with some competitors):
MX-5: 1,738
RCZ: 1,421
Boxster: 390
GT-86: 161
You have to factor in that the GT-86 has only been for sale for approx half the year so far, however halving the others sales numbers still results in GT-86 coming last. This is a pretty terrible sales figures for a car so hyped. The Boxster figures are low due to the old generation being phased out, I'd expect the new model to treble sales at least. As I predicted Toyota have fked up badly due to overpricing the car.
Six months is a bit strong. The first demos weren't here till June and first customer cars were August. MX-5: 1,738
RCZ: 1,421
Boxster: 390
GT-86: 161
You have to factor in that the GT-86 has only been for sale for approx half the year so far, however halving the others sales numbers still results in GT-86 coming last. This is a pretty terrible sales figures for a car so hyped. The Boxster figures are low due to the old generation being phased out, I'd expect the new model to treble sales at least. As I predicted Toyota have fked up badly due to overpricing the car.
I imagine a 7 million car recall won't help toyota's cause though.
LordGrover said:
I imagine a 7 million car recall won't help toyota's cause though.
Rest easy your car is engineered and built by SubaruMy BRZ just back from Litchfield; more power, more noise and nicely executed
If the car remains low volume and rare, then that is fine with me; in fact last time I looked Subaru had only sold 1 SE spec BRZ
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