RE: Silverstone Performance MR2

RE: Silverstone Performance MR2

Thursday 3rd August 2006

Silverstone Performance MR2

Graham Bell samples SP’s turbocharged Toyota


Silverstone Performance / Toyota MR2
Silverstone Performance / Toyota MR2

The third generation MR2 has won many plaudits for its handling poise, which has a lot to do with Toyota’s engineers endowing it with a long wheelbase relative to its compact size and keeping its weight below 1,000kg.

Inevitably, with such highly regarded cornering capabilities some people felt the car was let down by its straight line performance and deserved more power. That obviously included some people at Toyota, because in 2004 the company announced its new TTE tuning division, an offshoot of Toyota Motorsport in Germany, and the first car it produced was a turbocharged MR2.

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Road testers loved the straight line performance but felt the little roadster’s body maybe wasn’t quite stiff enough to make the most of it, so TTE took it away and stiffened it up. All well and good for German petrolheads, but sadly Toyota UK had no interest in offering TTE upgrades here - though that didn’t stop a few keen MR2 owners taking their cars over to Germany to get them converted.

Enter respected TVR fettler Silverstone Performance, which saw a gap in the market and set about filling it by becoming UK distributor for TTE, which it's done in conjunction with Champ Cars in Bicester. However, not satisfied with merely offering UK Toyota owners TTE gear, SP is also using its own tuning talents to come up with additional parts to further enhance the MR2’s performance.

Which brings us to the metallic grey example featured here.

More power

This currently uses the standard TTE turbo installation, which unlike some aftermarket turbo fitments looks neat enough to be an original factory fit. In addition to the actual turbo and plumbing, TTE’s kit also comes with a high flow panel air filter and an engine management chip that changes fuelling, boost and cooling fan cut-in points to help deal with the extra heat.

On its own, this boosts the 1,800cc four pot’s power from 138bhp to 180bhp and boosts torque from 125lb-ft to 188lb-ft, though the car tested here does better than that thanks to an SP tweak -- which we’ll come to in a minute.

First though we’ll deal with the other big TTE upgrade, which is the framework it's installed to stiffen the MR2’s body. This is bolted in place under the floor so as to effectively link the lower suspension mounting points on all four corners and, according to Phil James (PHer BossCerbera) who’s working in conjunction with SP, it makes a noticeable difference.

As indeed do SP’s own bits.

For example, the twin outlet exhaust – which unlike most such exhausts is no heavier than the original – has been dyno-developed and boosts the turbo engine’s output to 197bhp and 210 lb-ft. This is mated to a ‘de-cat’ downpipe, though it still incorporates a ‘pre-cat’ to satisfy MOT emissions tests.

Chassis upgrades

All the other SP bits fitted to the car are designed to improve the handling, the most noticeable of these being the larger wheels and tyres.

Phil James says that with standard tyres, the extra power of the turbo engine tended to make the MR2 oversteer, so SP upped the rubber to 245/35 x 17 on the rear with 205/40 x 17 on the front, all courtesy of Toyo. As for the wheels they’re fitted to, these are SP’s own and are designed to keep unsprung weight down to standard MR2 levels.

Keeping these pressed to the tarmac are Eibach springs to SP’s specifications, which include a 30mm drop, though surprisingly the dampers are standard MR2.

Finally there’s a front strut brace which, unlike others on the market, has been designed so that you can both access the brake fluid reservoir and remove the spare wheel well cover - even if it does require removal of the latter’s hinges so that it slides out rather than lifts up.

SP’s final handling tweak is something most people simply wouldn’t bother with, and that’s to make a few subtle adjustments to the suspension geometry to better suit the bigger wheels.

Sadly I haven’t tested a standard Mk3 MR2 so have no personal basis for making comparisons, but SP says its car feels pretty much like the standard model to drive, only faster.

One exception to this is the clutch. That’s because as well as being the company’s demonstrator, this car is also SP’s development mule, and with plans for higher power in mind it’s been fitted with a rather vicious cera-metallic clutch that’s better suited to the track than the road.

Normally for cars to this spec, SP would fit a milder uprated clutch that’s easier to live with in everyday traffic. As it is, you have to give the engine a few more revs than normal and carefully ease the clutch in to avoid stalling.

Performance

Once on the move you find the SP exhaust produces a nice note at low revs – not that loud, but with a sporty burble (in a four-pot way).

You also find that the engine pulls quite happily – albeit rather sedately – from these low revs even in the upper gears, though things perk up noticeably around 3,000rpm when you enter the peak torque zone. This continues to around 5,000rpm by which time you’re entering the max power zone which takes you to the 7,000rpm red line.

The upshot is that you can make quite rapid progress without having to constantly rev the engine’s nuts off, which is great for relaxed cross country touring. However, when you’re really going for it the slick gearchange and close ratio six speed box make it easy to keep the engine in the max power zone, with changing up at the end of the zone putting you right back at the start of it for the next gear.

Full-on acceleration feels respectable rather than staggering and, while SP has no measured figures, a power to weight ratio equivalent to a Boxster S (plus a torque to weight ratio that betters the Porker’s) would suggest 0-60 in under six seconds is possible.

Handling

Where this car really shines is along winding country roads where its enhanced acceleration combines with its light weight and enhanced handling to produce a highly amusing toy.

SP’s spring and tyre combination seems ideally suited to British B roads (certainly the ones around Bicester anyway) providing a very settled ride, and when used in conjunction with the TTE chassis brace the result is a very taut handling machine.

Make a rapid right hand turn at a roundabout and you can really feel the nimble little roadster dig in as it changes direction, while the traction conferred by the mid-engine layout and bigger back tyres enables rapid corner exits without undue fear of sudden power oversteer.

Although I didn’t risk exploring the car’s limits on my short drive, it certainly feels quite neutral in reasonably quick use, while if you do reach its limits you’ll discover mild understeer on turn in that can be turned into oversteer using the throttle. And unlike some mid-engine machines there’s no nasty snap transition but a nicely controllable progressive one – as Phil James demonstrated by casually correcting a sideways car with only one hand on the wheel.

One aspect of the car that SP so far hasn’t uprated is the brakes. Bigger brakes are planned to cope with future power hikes, but SP feels the standard brakes are perfectly adequate for road use with this level of power. They certainly had no problem coping with a brisk run along a narrow, twisty country road where oncoming traffic and constant blind bends required repeated firm applications.

But is it worth it?

In terms of outright dynamics, the SP MR2 is neither as hard-edged or as fast as a VX220 turbo, but it does come with Toyota’s renowned rock-solid build quality and a Toyota-backed guarantee for the turbo conversion. It also provides Boxster S performance with much cheaper servicing and insurance costs.

The TTE turbo kit (including chassis brace) costs £3,995, the springs are £302, wheels and tyres £1,080, front strut brace £250, suspension set-up £58.75, twin outlet exhaust £502 and ‘de-cat’ downpipe £302. All above prices include VAT and fitting and are ‘per item’ – go for a job lot and you’ll get reductions. So if you’ve got a Mk3 MR2 you could turn it into a real Boxster baiter for around £6k.

Now you’ll doubtless have noticed ‘more power’ has been mentioned a couple of times, and SP has already developed an induction kit that boosts power by a further 13bhp. However, they reckon they’ll be able to get even more by combining it with an ECU remapped to enable the engine to fully exploit the improved breathing, so guess what’s next on the ‘to do’ list?

For more information on progress with that – or any other aspect of the SP MR2 – contact either Silverstone Performance or Champ Cars.

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© Copyright Graham Bell 2006

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turboman

Original Poster:

370 posts

251 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Now I know its got a great write up, I'll have to blag a drive out of Mat.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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EVO gave it 5 stars in this month's issue.

trackcar

6,453 posts

226 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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This is another good reason why we love the guys at SP
great report on what sounds like a great car

NDT

1,753 posts

263 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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throw away the MR2 and put the conversion on an Elise... will it fit???

ApexClipper

24,959 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Going by the PH classifieds, the average price of an MR2 Roadster is probably about 9k, add the 6k on top of that and you've just spent 15k (and that's a conservative estimate based on buying a cheap-ish MR2...)

I bet it's every bit as brilliant as that write-up says it is, but I'm just not convinced it's good value for money


I like it tho


Edited by ApexClipper on Thursday 3rd August 19:06

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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It can make 'an expensive MR2' but there are already a few of these running around in the hands of delighted customers. Some with 'badges absent'. Against Lotus/VX220, the MR2 is a far more comfortable car. Against a Boxster (and possible the Lotus VX too), the MR2 is cheaper to run (gas, insurance, servicing = about £100) and because it's so light, it's a far more effective B road blatter than the Porsche.

The aim with the MR2 SP was not to make an overtly 'modified car' - it was to create what 'Toyota might have done'. Between oldest used and brand new, the cost of an MR2 SP (with every SP goodie fitted) ranges between £12K and £22K - in other words a brand new Limited Edition runout MR2 can have the Full SP added and cost less than the entry level Elise, and less than half a new Boxster S.

The MR2 wasn't a car I expected to enjoy but it makes me laugh every time I drive it. I doubt I could go much faster down a lane in a TVR. The big TTE chassis brace (of all the braces on the car) makes the BIGGEST difference. The MR2 feels like it could lift an inside wheel like a Tuscan Challenge car.
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dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Nice one Graham. The MR2 is a much overlooked classic. Minus 1000 kgs makes it a swift car. Shame about that dull colour though . . . Should be in orange or lime or red.

Doesn't Lotus pull 190 plus bhp out of that same 1.8? In NA form?

rogerPH

1 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Look on their website.... http://domain936675.sites.fasthosts.c

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Sorry Gazboy, missed your question.

As for the ECU question, SP is looking at various options of piggybacks, remaps and replacements. The induction kit is looking pretty exciting - it made a big power gain on its own but the breathing improvement needs to be matched with more fuel than the current ECU and turbo piggyback can muster.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

243 months

Thursday 3rd August 2006
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Gazboy said:
Could the standard injectors and fuel pump cope also?

We'll see. Do you have an MR2?

turboman

Original Poster:

370 posts

251 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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dinkel said:
Nice one Graham. The MR2 is a much overlooked classic. Minus 1000 kgs makes it a swift car. Shame about that dull colour though . . . Should be in orange or lime or red.

Doesn't Lotus pull 190 plus bhp out of that same 1.8? In NA form?


Lotus uses the vvti 190 unit, which is gutless below 6000 rpm then fantastic for about two seconds, even the supercharged versions of the lotus are underwhelming.

I think this little MR2 is the best Q car I've ever seen, and as for cost, you'd be supprised how cheap you can pick up the MR2's for now, and you don't have to go for every option on SP's list straight away, thats half the fun, keep ading to it, and just when you think you have everything, SP will bring out something to make it even faster.

Turbo T

1,382 posts

248 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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why was it dyno'd in 3rd gear?

dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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Have an Mk1 for 1K.

A damn shame Toyota stopped production . . . An Mr2 over an MX5 any hour of the day.

steve bowen

1,268 posts

224 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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dinkel said:
Have an Mk1 for 1K.

A damn shame Toyota stopped production . . . An Mr2 over an MX5 any hour of the day.


Until tuesday when I had the first day out at Combe in my mx5 i'd have agreed. I've not driven a mk3 mr2, but owned mk1, mk2 n/a & mk2 turbo, the mx5 went round every bend at combe faster than i could get the mr2's through. Only thing wrong with it is lack of power and like the mk3 mr2 thats nothing a turbo won't solve. I think as a drivers car the mk3 mr2 is likely the best evolution, shame about the zero storage it's the only reason i didn't go for one.

dervlpg

1 posts

216 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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The current piggy back is fully capable of opening the injectors to their maximum duty as well as giving ignition timing, and is fully mappable. It also probably controls the extra cooling fan even after the ignition is switched off. So it is not the limitation of the piggy back causing the problems, with the low power. Chiping a Denso ECU and re-mapping is no simple task.

The reason the power is low is possibly due to the massive heat the turbo conversion creates - hence the extra cooling fan and engine bay temperature sensor, creating pre - ignition knock at roughly 5000 RPM, once high temperatures are reached.

I would imagine the ignition timing using the existing piggy back has been retarded to compensate for this extra heat and eliminate the pinking as a sacrafice to power.

Cheers.

steve bowen

1,268 posts

224 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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dervlpg said:

The reason the power is low is possibly due to the massive heat the turbo conversion creates - hence the extra cooling fan and engine bay temperature sensor, creating pre - ignition knock at roughly 5000 RPM, once high temperatures are reached.Cheers.

Thor offer MK3 Mr2 turbo packages upto 260bhp so I doubt its that, all you needs a good charge cooler and a slightly rich map.

lap_time

339 posts

227 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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dinkel said:
Nice one Graham. The MR2 is a much overlooked classic. Minus 1000 kgs makes it a swift car. Shame about that dull colour though . . . Should be in orange or lime or red.

Doesn't Lotus pull 190 plus bhp out of that same 1.8? In NA form?


Nope. Lotus use the Celica motah...different. Personally, me thinks a turbo 3S-GTE out of the previous-gen MR2, but boosted to circa 300bhp would do rather nicely in an Elise.

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

243 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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For the turbo kit, a TTE piggyback ECU. The SP remap, as previously posted, is under development. To be a satisfactory solution may require more than simply changing/adding ECUs and/or the power upgrades beyond 200bhp will be in stages.

dervlpg said:
The reason the power is low is possibly due...

"The power is low"???? The torque is 50% higher than standard and the power delivery is very smooth. c.200bhp/tonne and >200lb/ft/tonne shifts the MR2 into serious-car territory. The new Audi RS4 is 224bhp/tonne and 172lb/ft/tonne. BMW M3s being unable to shake the MR2 SP loose is pretty comical.

Make no mistake, the MR2 SP is a fast car. Travelling round the lanes at between 80 and 120 leptons in a car that doesn't suffer from girth-induced inertia with c.200bhp/tonne is pretty special. And it's so-o-o-o-o-o easy! I am gagging to get it on a tight circuit like Anglesey - I reckon it would be dynamite. Think 'baby Noble' in terms of character ...but in a Q car.

The further mods to increase power require looking at more than just turning up the fuel and boost. "As thorough as Toyota would be" is how SP has and is approaching all the Toyota projects.

lap_time

339 posts

227 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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Gazboy said:
Have SP looked into dropping a 3SGTE engine in?


Sorry GazBoy, not meaning to intrude, but looking at your profile, have you considered adding USDM turbochargers to your list of "to-do's?" The American Supra's came with steel-wheel turbo's, which allow for higher (and still safe) boost pressures to be run. Apparently they make for a good, low cost upgrade.

Edited by lap_time on Friday 4th August 11:36

dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Friday 4th August 2006
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The other good thing is: they won't fail

Now if they only looked just that little bit sharper . . . bit of an image problem.

But then the Boxter has too.

Future could bring this.

This US MR2 has a Northstar V8 in