New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

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KamD

1 posts

142 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Damn! Really wish i had seen this site before. My White 320i M Sport 2010 was stolen on Friday 10.8.12 in B'ham city centre! I was at work and am pretty sure i saw the 3 thugs who took it. CCTV has picked them up and will be sent to the police. After speaking to the police and insurance company they have been fully aware of this for months and its getting worse. Alarm did not sound and drivers window was broken. Shame on you BMW!

Thinking of buying a Audi or Merc but really want a BMW BUT once problem is fixed by BMW.
Can anyone a car for around £15,000 that in not so easy to steal.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Guys, all this talk of trackers, secondary alarms and so on - if you think your car is at risk, just fit one of these to your battery for £10 and remove the "knob" (ha ha) and leave it in the boot whenever you're worried about the car.

Your car won't be going anywhere, whether the OBD II port is active or not.

http://www.richbrook-styling.co.uk/dis-car-nect-ba...

youngsyr

14,742 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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MadAdMan said:
youngsyr said:
Can anyone recommend where to get an "OBD Port Disabled" sticker from - I'd ideally like one printed on a clear backing that can be fixed to the inside of the window facing outwards.
just had mine back from the printers, these were the designs - email me and ill send you the PDF
Thanks, but I don't think you have the email facility activated on your profile?

r999

78 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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youngsyr said:
Guys, all this talk of trackers, secondary alarms and so on - if you think your car is at risk, just fit one of these to your battery for £10 and remove the "knob" (ha ha) and leave it in the boot whenever you're worried about the car.

Your car won't be going anywhere, whether the OBD II port is active or not.

http://www.richbrook-styling.co.uk/dis-car-nect-ba...
I was advised against this by the electrician at my BMW dealer and also by an independent auto electrician. The reason is that a lot of the electronic stuff needs power the whole time and doesn't take kindly to having it shut off. Once in a while you can cope with it, but if you do it all the time, you may find yourself dealing with an endless cascade of errors and warnings.

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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r999 said:
I was advised against this by the electrician at my BMW dealer and also by an independent auto electrician. The reason is that a lot of the electronic stuff needs power the whole time and doesn't take kindly to having it shut off. Once in a while you can cope with it, but if you do it all the time, you may find yourself dealing with an endless cascade of errors and warnings.
Perhaps better than having no car?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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r999 said:
youngsyr said:
Guys, all this talk of trackers, secondary alarms and so on - if you think your car is at risk, just fit one of these to your battery for £10 and remove the "knob" (ha ha) and leave it in the boot whenever you're worried about the car.

Your car won't be going anywhere, whether the OBD II port is active or not.

http://www.richbrook-styling.co.uk/dis-car-nect-ba...
I was advised against this by the electrician at my BMW dealer and also by an independent auto electrician. The reason is that a lot of the electronic stuff needs power the whole time and doesn't take kindly to having it shut off. Once in a while you can cope with it, but if you do it all the time, you may find yourself dealing with an endless cascade of errors and warnings.
That module comes with a jumper strap with a low current fuse. This allows all the systems in the car to keep power to them with the main knob removed.

This works because the current draw of things like the alarm etc will be below the rating of the fuse, say 3A running through a 5A fuse.

However when the car starts it will need much more than 10A and this will then blow the 5A fuse, unless the knob is put back in place.

So the power to all body electrical systems is uninterrupted, but it IS current limited below the current required to start the engine, until the knob is replaced whereupon the large current draw of the starter motor will go via the knob.

The downside of this device is inconvenience.

Cheib

23,336 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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youngsyr said:
Guys, all this talk of trackers, secondary alarms and so on - if you think your car is at risk, just fit one of these to your battery for £10 and remove the "knob" (ha ha) and leave it in the boot whenever you're worried about the car.

Your car won't be going anywhere, whether the OBD II port is active or not.

http://www.richbrook-styling.co.uk/dis-car-nect-ba...
That looks like a great idea....I've just ordered one.

My X5 doesn't get used much during the week so it wouldn't be that much of an inconveniance. Also means the wife will use "her" Golf more than "my" X5.

Bit of a pain with the X5 as the battery is under the boot floor. Hopefully the powered boot lid won't blow the fuse...that would be a right royal pain in the posterior.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Cheib said:
Hopefully the powered boot lid won't blow the fuse...that would be a right royal pain in the posterior.
Why not check the fuse rating for the powered boot, and be sure to use a jumper wire of suitable gauge for that current, and an appropriate fuse?

Cheib

23,336 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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mrmr96 said:
Cheib said:
Hopefully the powered boot lid won't blow the fuse...that would be a right royal pain in the posterior.
Why not check the fuse rating for the powered boot, and be sure to use a jumper wire of suitable gauge for that current, and an appropriate fuse?
Without wishing to sound like a total numpty....how can I check the fuse rating for the boot ?!?!

sinizter

3,348 posts

188 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Tyrewrecker said:
Perhaps better than having no car?
Most of the time ... perhaps not always.

If someone's BMW went missing 30+ months into a 36 month return to invoice GAP insurance policy, after getting over their initial shock, they will probably be thanking their lucky stars and buying a non-BMW or even another new BMW.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Cheib said:
Without wishing to sound like a total numpty....how can I check the fuse rating for the boot ?!?!
Look in the handbook, and it will tell you which fuse does what, and what the rating is. Sometimes there's also icons drawn on the inside of the fuse box lid, but they can be a bit ambiguous in my experience.

r999

78 posts

156 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Cheib said:
Without wishing to sound like a total numpty....how can I check the fuse rating for the boot ?!?!
On the 5-Series Touring there's a neat little card tucked into a slot behind the RH trim panel in the load area. It lists all fuse ratings.

It shows the electric tailgate lift as having two fuses, one of 40A and one of 7.5A. The X5 probably uses the same motors.

Good luck if you try a 40A bypass fuse!

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Is anyone actually getting out of a BMW as a result of this?

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

156 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Helicopter123 said:
Is anyone actually getting out of a BMW as a result of this?
Yeah most whether they like it or not!

MadAdMan

30 posts

143 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Tyrewrecker said:
Yeah most whether they like it or not!
Just had mine back and its OBD disabled + fully armed - but after 2 attempts is it worth all the extra hassel? (BMW Head of tech at the dealership confirmed they do know and even eluded to BMW internally are trying to work up a lockable port cover for the new model while lobbying the eu for a change in the legislation re universal access to obd port) if i could find a X5 M sport 7 seat alternative , it wouldn't take much for me to switch a gain a little extra piece of mind..

nick30

1,567 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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have any of the new F20 1 series been stolen in this way? confused

Guvernator

13,192 posts

167 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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MadAdMan said:
BMW internally are trying to work up a lockable port cover for the new model while lobbying the eu for a change in the legislation re universal access to obd port
I just knew BMW would try to use this to try to get the legislation changed. The legislation is NOT the issue, this is BMW's f**k up plain and simple but they've now got the perfect excuse to fudge the issue, blame it on the odb regulations and stop local indies from having access to it in the name of security. Bye Bye cheap servicing!

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Guvernator said:
MadAdMan said:
BMW internally are trying to work up a lockable port cover for the new model while lobbying the eu for a change in the legislation re universal access to obd port
I just knew BMW would try to use this to try to get the legislation changed. The legislation is NOT the issue, this is BMW's f**k up plain and simple but they've now got the perfect excuse to fudge the issue, blame it on the odb regulations and stop local indies from having access to it in the name of security. Bye Bye cheap servicing!
Exactly

Not just local indies. I now have an OBD reader which I bout for £29.

It saves me £70 and probably more in repairs just by being able to look up a code.

This is BMW trying to use their fk up and use it to fleece us for money at the dealers.

bigandclever

13,834 posts

240 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Helicopter123 said:
Is anyone actually getting out of a BMW as a result of this?
Don't know - but it's stopping me getting into one, and I expect that will worry BMW more (not because of me specifically, obviously!)

jacktoyou

82 posts

172 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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My 330 vert was pinched just before Christmas - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I was at a loss as to how they took it but it's obviously a lot clearer now. Obviously got my insurance payout - less to what I paid (GAP is a must next time) but it still affects your NCB, premiums etc. Do I want another BMW? Would love one but I am just too worried about leaving it every night. I live in the East End - where from reading some the posts on here seems to be a hot spot?

If I do decide to bite the bullet and risk another...what tracker (are they worth the investment?) and additional steps do the experts on here recommend?

Or do I just opt for an Audi or Merc?