BMW 330i M Sport Saloon (New)
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Well all you Rev merchants would have some fun in this !!
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2016-bmw-340i-ac...
Its been a long long time since i have driven a tasty petrol ,maybeIi should test drive on to see what the fuss is about..
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2016-bmw-340i-ac...
Its been a long long time since i have driven a tasty petrol ,maybeIi should test drive on to see what the fuss is about..
cerb4.5lee said:
Don't get me wrong I respect the 330d highly as a package and had a E90 330d for six years and over 150k miles so I do like them, the engine is just a one trick pony though for me(short rev band/limited reward)and It wouldn't be a car I would choose to just jump in and go for a drive.
I understand what you mean, and while it was very competent, I certainly wouldn't have jumped in an E90 330d for fun either. The F30 is quite a different animal though, thanks largely to the ZF8 gearbox which is a huge step forwards from the slushmatic 6 speed auto. With its rapid changes, it takes away most of the downside of the narrow rev range of a diesel lump. Unlike the E90, the suspension on all F30s, sDrive M Sport included, is a bit too wallowy for an entertaining drive, but that is easily solved. The end result is quite a compelling package. Even after a year of ownership, I still find myself taking the long way home in my ACS sprung 335d.
335d said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Don't get me wrong I respect the 330d highly as a package and had a E90 330d for six years and over 150k miles so I do like them, the engine is just a one trick pony though for me(short rev band/limited reward)and It wouldn't be a car I would choose to just jump in and go for a drive.
I understand what you mean, and while it was very competent, I certainly wouldn't have jumped in an E90 330d for fun either. The F30 is quite a different animal though, thanks largely to the ZF8 gearbox which is a huge step forwards from the slushmatic 6 speed auto. With its rapid changes, it takes away most of the downside of the narrow rev range of a diesel lump. Unlike the E90, the suspension on all F30s, sDrive M Sport included, is a bit too wallowy for an entertaining drive, but that is easily solved. The end result is quite a compelling package. Even after a year of ownership, I still find myself taking the long way home in my ACS sprung 335d.
Once you have done a few straight line blasts in a twin turbo diesel/ZF8 combo that's pretty much where the enjoyment ends, in saying that though my worry is that a twin turbo petrol/ZF8 combo(haven't driven one) would suffer the same quick and easy feel and not being very rewarding either.
As you can probably tell I am hankering after a car that is entertaining to drive rather than just set up to be a comfortable cruiser which most BMW`s are to be fair and they are excellent at that.
I think the 640d is intended to be more of a refined GT than a sports car. The quality of materials and sound insulation is well above the 335d, but it is less suited to twisty roads. I have only driven a 640i though, which was very refined, but felt like it could do with a bit more power (and Adaptive Drive?) to make it interesting. I imagine that the 640d feels a little quicker.
The 335i and 340i are single turbo these days, although still have the deliberately confusing 'Twinpower Turbo' engine cover. I will be interested to try the 340i.
Every car is a compromise though. For me, the 335d plus springs is probably the closest I can get to a single car which ticks all of the boxes - long distance economical cruiser, sports car, family transport. If I spent more time on the motorway I guess a 535d, 640d GC or 740d might be the best option. Perhaps an M5 if I was prepared to forget about economy.
The 335i and 340i are single turbo these days, although still have the deliberately confusing 'Twinpower Turbo' engine cover. I will be interested to try the 340i.
Every car is a compromise though. For me, the 335d plus springs is probably the closest I can get to a single car which ticks all of the boxes - long distance economical cruiser, sports car, family transport. If I spent more time on the motorway I guess a 535d, 640d GC or 740d might be the best option. Perhaps an M5 if I was prepared to forget about economy.
335d said:
I think the 640d is intended to be more of a refined GT than a sports car. The quality of materials and sound insulation is well above the 335d, but it is less suited to twisty roads. I have only driven a 640i though, which was very refined, but felt like it could do with a bit more power (and Adaptive Drive?) to make it interesting. I imagine that the 640d feels a little quicker.
The 335i and 340i are single turbo these days, although still have the deliberately confusing 'Twinpower Turbo' engine cover. I will be interested to try the 340i.
Every car is a compromise though. For me, the 335d plus springs is probably the closest I can get to a single car which ticks all of the boxes - long distance economical cruiser, sports car, family transport. If I spent more time on the motorway I guess a 535d, 640d GC or 740d might be the best option. Perhaps an M5 if I was prepared to forget about economy.
A very good sum up that and I agree every car is a compromise, make no mistake I respect the 335d as a package without question and it will be a flying machine as well with that engine in it.The 335i and 340i are single turbo these days, although still have the deliberately confusing 'Twinpower Turbo' engine cover. I will be interested to try the 340i.
Every car is a compromise though. For me, the 335d plus springs is probably the closest I can get to a single car which ticks all of the boxes - long distance economical cruiser, sports car, family transport. If I spent more time on the motorway I guess a 535d, 640d GC or 740d might be the best option. Perhaps an M5 if I was prepared to forget about economy.
I tried a E92 M3 as a do it all car and that car made me realise that there just isn't such a thing so I agree you go for a motor that closest suits your needs at any given time, I have been hankering after a fun weekend motor for a while now and I would like to go back to running a reasonable daily and something fun for the weekend because I really miss that set up.
I like the E92 M3 a lot. It has a fantastic engine (better than the current one) and driving it feels like an event. Not so sure I want that sort of event on a wet Monday morning though. I would enjoy one as a weekend toy.
The best single all-rounder from my point of view is the current M5. Spectacularly fast and good fun on twisty roads, while being relaxed and refined on the motorway. Sadly I don't possess the required level of man maths to make it add up, so the 335d stays as the sensible alternative.
The best single all-rounder from my point of view is the current M5. Spectacularly fast and good fun on twisty roads, while being relaxed and refined on the motorway. Sadly I don't possess the required level of man maths to make it add up, so the 335d stays as the sensible alternative.
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