Must be mad - M5 to a 6 series!!
Discussion
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
Therefore, I stick by my assertion that a 635d is something people want as opposed to need and if we're talking wants then for that money I'll have a secondhand V8 M3 plus cash thanks very much! Yes it will cost more to run but if you're that worried about things like servicing and fuel consumption you probably shouldn't be looking at cars at that price level in the first place!
I do agree with your point on car weights but sadly that's a sign of the times; not a problem if you trade that 635d for a Golf and a Caterham though!!
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
JNW1 said:
Therefore, I stick by my assertion that a 635d is something people want as opposed to need and if we're talking wants then for that money I'll have a secondhand V8 M3 plus cash thanks very much! Yes it will cost more to run but if you're that worried about things like servicing and fuel consumption you probably shouldn't be looking at cars at that price level in the first place!
The OP said he'd like a 6er, your preference for an M3 is a personal one, which would cost the same or more as a 2nd hand 6er btw (not sure where you make your cash saving), may not be relevant. I think 99% of the population would have concerns over running costs. Not many people can afford to throw their money away in any financial climate, especially not the current one.
My car is in that price bracket but it costs less to run than a Golf/Focus diesel - go figure Just because you can afford to invest in something doesn't mean you're happy to continue throwing money at it.
JNW1 said:
I do agree with your point on car weights but sadly that's a sign of the times; not a problem if you trade that 635d for a Golf and a Caterham though!!
Again, no argument but not what the OP was looking into. I think that's a whole new, different, thread.ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
JNW1 said:
Therefore, I stick by my assertion that a 635d is something people want as opposed to need and if we're talking wants then for that money I'll have a secondhand V8 M3 plus cash thanks very much! Yes it will cost more to run but if you're that worried about things like servicing and fuel consumption you probably shouldn't be looking at cars at that price level in the first place!
The OP said he'd like a 6er, your preference for an M3 is a personal one, which would cost the same or more as a 2nd hand 6er btw (not sure where you make your cash saving), may not be relevant. I think 99% of the population would have concerns over running costs. Not many people can afford to throw their money away in any financial climate, especially not the current one.
My car is in that price bracket but it costs less to run than a Golf/Focus diesel - go figure Just because you can afford to invest in something doesn't mean you're happy to continue throwing money at it.
JNW1 said:
I do agree with your point on car weights but sadly that's a sign of the times; not a problem if you trade that 635d for a Golf and a Caterham though!!
Again, no argument but not what the OP was looking into. I think that's a whole new, different, thread.Anyway, leaving all that aside where I was coming from is the OP currently has an M5 and appears to be looking to sell because he fancies a change rather than because finances are forcing him to do so. I think he'd find either a 630i or a 650i a tad lacking in driver appeal after the M5 and frankly I can't see a 635d being any better (not driven one but have driven the 335d coupe which is a cracking machine but dull as dishwater compared to an M-car IMO). I do understand the potential issues around running costs but they don't appear to be a critical factor to the OP hence my suggestion to consider a secondhand M3; as I've said before, it's not a rehersal!
ferrisbueller said:
Rather depends what you're using it for. i.e. 20k miles a year on the motorway renders the M-car redundant IMO. Also, there are a number of issues with an M5/6 e.g. Opportunities to exploit 500+ bhp are limited on UK roads, running costs are prohibitive and depreciation can be eye-watering.
Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
The highest grade of piffle I've seen on PH thus far in 09.Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
derestrictor said:
ferrisbueller said:
Rather depends what you're using it for. i.e. 20k miles a year on the motorway renders the M-car redundant IMO. Also, there are a number of issues with an M5/6 e.g. Opportunities to exploit 500+ bhp are limited on UK roads, running costs are prohibitive and depreciation can be eye-watering.
Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
The highest grade of piffle I've seen on PH thus far in 09.Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
derestrictor said:
ferrisbueller said:
Rather depends what you're using it for. i.e. 20k miles a year on the motorway renders the M-car redundant IMO. Also, there are a number of issues with an M5/6 e.g. Opportunities to exploit 500+ bhp are limited on UK roads, running costs are prohibitive and depreciation can be eye-watering.
Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
The highest grade of piffle I've seen on PH thus far in 09.Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
Edited by ferrisbueller on Wednesday 7th January 19:09
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
JNW1 said:
Therefore, I stick by my assertion that a 635d is something people want as opposed to need and if we're talking wants then for that money I'll have a secondhand V8 M3 plus cash thanks very much! Yes it will cost more to run but if you're that worried about things like servicing and fuel consumption you probably shouldn't be looking at cars at that price level in the first place!
The OP said he'd like a 6er, your preference for an M3 is a personal one, which would cost the same or more as a 2nd hand 6er btw (not sure where you make your cash saving), may not be relevant. I think 99% of the population would have concerns over running costs. Not many people can afford to throw their money away in any financial climate, especially not the current one.
My car is in that price bracket but it costs less to run than a Golf/Focus diesel - go figure Just because you can afford to invest in something doesn't mean you're happy to continue throwing money at it.
JNW1 said:
I do agree with your point on car weights but sadly that's a sign of the times; not a problem if you trade that 635d for a Golf and a Caterham though!!
Again, no argument but not what the OP was looking into. I think that's a whole new, different, thread.Anyway, leaving all that aside where I was coming from is the OP currently has an M5 and appears to be looking to sell because he fancies a change rather than because finances are forcing him to do so. I think he'd find either a 630i or a 650i a tad lacking in driver appeal after the M5 and frankly I can't see a 635d being any better (not driven one but have driven the 335d coupe which is a cracking machine but dull as dishwater compared to an M-car IMO). I do understand the potential issues around running costs but they don't appear to be a critical factor to the OP hence my suggestion to consider a secondhand M3; as I've said before, it's not a rehersal!
Nice to drive, comfy and aesthetically pleasing to the the eye of the beholder (being me!) both inside and out...so to me the 6er...don't want to turn this into a what car thread....as basically the car is to transport myself to work (11/12k miles PA) followed by family trips/weekends etc (3k milesish) - Potential extra pocket money here of £2k PA ish...wit woo though knowing me, it will go towards a little slush fund to change it again when I'm bored!!
The cost side is a potential bonus and certainly one to please the other half and earn brownie points for myself :-)
I'll end up ressurecting this thread in 7/8 months after the summer to update what I've actually bought in the end!!
Edited by berry100 on Wednesday 7th January 17:30
berry100 said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
JNW1 said:
ferrisbueller said:
dubbs said:
Banned
In all seriousness, the 635d is all the car many people would need. IMO it's better than the 630i and decent competition for the V8 models (and that's not a pure economy based argument - it's a solid GT).Also, I'd suggest "keen drivers" wouldn't be driving something that weighs nigh on two tonnes.
JNW1 said:
Therefore, I stick by my assertion that a 635d is something people want as opposed to need and if we're talking wants then for that money I'll have a secondhand V8 M3 plus cash thanks very much! Yes it will cost more to run but if you're that worried about things like servicing and fuel consumption you probably shouldn't be looking at cars at that price level in the first place!
The OP said he'd like a 6er, your preference for an M3 is a personal one, which would cost the same or more as a 2nd hand 6er btw (not sure where you make your cash saving), may not be relevant. I think 99% of the population would have concerns over running costs. Not many people can afford to throw their money away in any financial climate, especially not the current one.
My car is in that price bracket but it costs less to run than a Golf/Focus diesel - go figure Just because you can afford to invest in something doesn't mean you're happy to continue throwing money at it.
JNW1 said:
I do agree with your point on car weights but sadly that's a sign of the times; not a problem if you trade that 635d for a Golf and a Caterham though!!
Again, no argument but not what the OP was looking into. I think that's a whole new, different, thread.Anyway, leaving all that aside where I was coming from is the OP currently has an M5 and appears to be looking to sell because he fancies a change rather than because finances are forcing him to do so. I think he'd find either a 630i or a 650i a tad lacking in driver appeal after the M5 and frankly I can't see a 635d being any better (not driven one but have driven the 335d coupe which is a cracking machine but dull as dishwater compared to an M-car IMO). I do understand the potential issues around running costs but they don't appear to be a critical factor to the OP hence my suggestion to consider a secondhand M3; as I've said before, it's not a rehersal!
Nice to drive, comfy and aesthetically pleasing to the the eye of the beholder (being me!) both inside and out...so to me the 6er...don't want to turn this into a what car thread....as basically the car is to transport myself to work (11/12k miles PA) followed by family trips/weekends etc (3k milesish) - Potential extra pocket money here of £2k PA ish...wit woo though knowing me, it will go towards a little slush fund to change it again when I'm bored!!
The cost side is a potential bonus and certainly one to please the other half and earn brownie points for myself :-)
I'll end up ressurecting this thread in 7/8 months after the summer to update what I've actually bought in the end!!
Edited by berry100 on Wednesday 7th January 17:30
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