Anyone with experiance of complaining to BMW UK

Anyone with experiance of complaining to BMW UK

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John the Blind

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87 posts

218 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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Need a little help and advice.

We have a Z4m in the family which has been nothing but trouble since the month after it was bought.

I don't want to boar you with all of the details but it has developed a fault nearly every month for the last 14 months. Works done include replacement of the ECU, various sender units, numerous oxygen sensors, partial wiring loom and both cats.

To be fair to the dealers they have been nothing but helpful and courteous, and I know they are as anxious to try and solve the problems as we are. However the latest fault is the battery mysteriously going flat over night.

This has happened 4 times now with BMW assist attending each time. And despite them having the car back every time they are again telling us that there is still no fault found.

I think enough is enough and I would like to see the car gone. Does anyone have any experience of persistent problems like this with BMW?

What I am really looking for is actual cases of what dealers/BMW have offered so I know what I should be asking for and what I could reasonably expect as a resolution.

Also any contact details for BMW UK complaints department would be useful along with how you got on with them. Has anyone got a name or email of people worth speaking with?

As every, thanking in anticipation of your assistance

John

DavidLScott

1,048 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Admittedly not in recent times but BMW, Audi, VW etc are all as bad as each other when I have had more than the usual small problems.

Once they have had your money they couldn't give a toss.

paoloh

8,617 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Add Mercedes to that list.

25 service repairs in 15 months and they think that is acceptable.....

joey deakon

122 posts

206 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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We had a problem with our Z4Coupe.

The remote central locking kept packing up. After 3 months of going backwards and forwards we formally rejected the car. The dealers tried to give us a replacement vhicle from their stock but, as our car is quite a high spec, we refused.

In the end we emailed jim o'donnel (the UK CEO) explaining to him hat had happened. He emailed back within 5 minutes.

The final outcome was an identical replacement car was built for us, with a loan Z4C whilst we waited.

If you need any more details feel free to ask.biggrin

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

211 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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paoloh said:
Add Mercedes to that list.

25 service repairs in 15 months and they think that is acceptable.....
Corporate Arrogance.

The compant moto is/was everybody in the world should aspire to own a Mercedes.

They are absolutely convinced that there is nothing wrong with their product, they actually invented the car so how can anyone say they are wrong.

Faced with that mentality complaining becomes futile.

Swiss Tone

390 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Personally the best thing for you to do would be to write everything down that you can think of since owning the car that has let you down, then call CS, explaining that you aren't looking to get someone-another dealer to just fix it, you want a final fix or something more definitive like a replacement car. Be courteous but firm be honest about how you feel and what your ultimate goal is, i.e a car working perfectly from day one with out the worry of it going wrong again.

Make sure you make notes of who you speak to and times etc.

It may take a few weeks to get resolve even with BMW UK CS, but to be honest you need to take this further. If a replacement car is finally offered don't be surprised if there is additional cost to get a new replacement. Unfortunately your car is used now, I know what your thinking...but it is and the fact that the market for your car and others like it are flat on their face be prepared to take some financial pain.

Hope this helps.

Swiss.

Vinny09

249 posts

194 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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I had some problems with my Z4M Coupe when I got it in January.

This was a used car buy and the dealership had no interest in resolving some issues that quite frankly should have been picked up in the AUC checks. In the end I wrote to Klaus Kibsgaard (MD of BMW UK) and was referred to customer services, who did very little other than sympathise, stating that they do not get involved in used car issues.

Very bad news for the brand and I fear BMW are heading the same way as Mercedes a few years ago for when it comes to customer services. I would be reluctant to buy BMW again, but one can only assume that it is a corporate strategy to go for more volume than quality, given the lack of interest they showed me.

Certainly if yours was a used buy you should write to Klaus and you may have more luck.

Shame as the Z4M is a great car and I thoroughly enjoy every drive now, but it sounds like you got a bad apple!

Vinny09

249 posts

194 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Ps. I believe that Jim O'Donnell is now heading up the US and that Klaus has now taken on this role, just to clarify.

niva441

2,008 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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I tried complaining to BMW UK after a lack of success of with the dealer and experienced even less success. Unfortunately my experience was like the previous poster, after taking my money they weren't interested.

Wacky Racer

38,277 posts

249 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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odyssey2200 said:
paoloh said:
Add Mercedes to that list.

25 service repairs in 15 months and they think that is acceptable.....
Corporate Arrogance.

The compant moto is/was everybody in the world should aspire to own a Mercedes.

They are absolutely convinced that there is nothing wrong with their product, they actually invented the car so how can anyone say they are wrong.

Faced with that mentality complaining becomes futile.
Obviously you have my sympathy, but only fair to put the other side of the coin, we have had three new Mercedes cars in the last five years....not a single fault or problem.