Buying my first BMW

Buying my first BMW

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chrisjb81

Original Poster:

6 posts

183 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Hi,

New member here. I have only been driving since Dec 08! I've got a Saxo VTR at the mo which I bought from a mate (I'm not a boy racer though, I'm 27..) I'm already bored of it now after a few months, and have always dreamed of owning a BMW 1 day.

What I want to ask you lot is what model(s) do you suggest? My insurance on the Saxo was £1300 - as it's a 1.6 and I'm a new driver. My insurance is likely to be higher on a BMW I guess..

I hope to buy a BMW at the end of the year, when I have some money ready, and hopefully have 1 years no claims, so hopefully my insurance will drop a bit.

But I guess I need to look at 1.6/1.8 litre engines, to keep the insurance down.

I guess I would like to spend approx 5k, maybe more, maybe less though. I want a fairly newish one, with mod cons etc, although I guess I may need to spend quite a bit more for a newer model, so would consider older models if they look good and are in good nick etc.

I also may lease, but I haven't done this before, and am not sure if this would work out better for me financially and with regards to changing cars in the future etc..

I am open to your suggestions and look forward to your expert opinions!

If I can get an idea of what models to look for, then I have between now and Christmas to weigh them up etc.

Thanks in advance.

Chris.

E21_Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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i'm guessing you are looking at a 3 series? since the 5 is really slow with a 1.8, and they don't do small engines on the 7 series, and 1 and 6 series etc not around for 5k!!!!

do you want petrol or diesel or what? for 5k you can get pretty decent E46 examples now. it might be better to buy a slightly cheaper example, and then spend the rest on getting it serviced? give the car a good look over, ask for advice on common faults. if looked after, BMW's can go on for a long time! mine is nearly 27 years and never ever misses a beat and can still sit at 90+ for a few hours without any issues at all. biggrin

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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By the time the end of the year comes, you will get a nice facelift E46 318Ci M Sport I would have thought?

Standard with PDC, cruise, climate etc etc.

Insurance is good too, I had one at 19 with a conviction and 0 ncb and it was relatively reasonable (less than £1,300!).


E21_Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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AB said:
By the time the end of the year comes, you will get a nice facelift E46 318Ci M Sport I would have thought?

Standard with PDC, cruise, climate etc etc.

Insurance is good too, I had one at 19 with a conviction and 0 ncb and it was relatively reasonable (less than £1,300!).
you lucky b*stard!

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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E21_Ross said:
AB said:
By the time the end of the year comes, you will get a nice facelift E46 318Ci M Sport I would have thought?

Standard with PDC, cruise, climate etc etc.

Insurance is good too, I had one at 19 with a conviction and 0 ncb and it was relatively reasonable (less than £1,300!).
you lucky b*stard!
You mean with the low insurance quote?

I've heard people paying far more for things like Fiestas etc, I must have just got lucky somehow, but can't complain.



Edited by AB on Friday 20th February 16:06

chrisjb81

Original Poster:

6 posts

183 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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E21_Ross said:
i'm guessing you are looking at a 3 series? since the 5 is really slow with a 1.8, and they don't do small engines on the 7 series, and 1 and 6 series etc not around for 5k!!!!

do you want petrol or diesel or what? for 5k you can get pretty decent E46 examples now. it might be better to buy a slightly cheaper example, and then spend the rest on getting it serviced? give the car a good look over, ask for advice on common faults. if looked after, BMW's can go on for a long time! mine is nearly 27 years and never ever misses a beat and can still sit at 90+ for a few hours without any issues at all. biggrin
Sounds like a 3 series is best for me then! I haven't thought about petrol or diesel to be honest, I don't know that much about cars really, I know both petrol and diesel have their own benefits, but I can't say I'm that fussed really! I do a lot of short journeys rather than longer journeys really.

I've just had a quick look online and seen there are CI models, and SE models, what is the difference, and what does the E46 stand for, sorry for being thick!


Fox-

13,251 posts

247 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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AB said:
E21_Ross said:
AB said:
By the time the end of the year comes, you will get a nice facelift E46 318Ci M Sport I would have thought?

Standard with PDC, cruise, climate etc etc.

Insurance is good too, I had one at 19 with a conviction and 0 ncb and it was relatively reasonable (less than £1,300!).
you lucky b*stard!
You mean with the low insurance quote?
I paid about that for a Mondeo 2.0 at 19! My 530 was £1000 at 22.

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Fox- said:
AB said:
E21_Ross said:
AB said:
By the time the end of the year comes, you will get a nice facelift E46 318Ci M Sport I would have thought?

Standard with PDC, cruise, climate etc etc.

Insurance is good too, I had one at 19 with a conviction and 0 ncb and it was relatively reasonable (less than £1,300!).
you lucky b*stard!
You mean with the low insurance quote?
I paid about that for a Mondeo 2.0 at 19! My 530 was £1000 at 22.
Yeah, Z4 at 22 less than £1k which is a refreshing change. My Focus as 18 shortly after claim/conviction was more than £1,300.


DocSteve

718 posts

223 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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I just sold my immaculate 51 plate E39 530i for 3k - such a car would be a great buy and they are out there.

Fox-

13,251 posts

247 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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DocSteve said:
I just sold my immaculate 51 plate E39 530i for 3k - such a car would be a great buy and they are out there.
Such a car is very hard to find at that price point as it's lost in a sea of 7 not so careful owner wrecks. Whoever bought yours got an absolutely brilliant deal. I presume for the money it was an SE?

chrisjb81

Original Poster:

6 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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I quite like the look of the compact ones, but not many people seem to agree, are they any good?

DoubleYellow

1,288 posts

190 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Personal preference really mate.

chrisjb81

Original Poster:

6 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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I am pretty sure that the compact is the one I want, seen a 1.6 2004 model with 27000 miles for just over 6k, that seems to fit my requirements just about perfectly, I'll check out some insurance quotes tonight!

fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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chrisjb81 said:
I quite like the look of the compact ones, but not many people seem to agree, are they any good?
The E36 compacts had, effectively, E30 rear axles but the E46 is E46 right through.

If you like the looks and accommodation, why not. smile

chrisjb81

Original Poster:

6 posts

183 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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What's the difference between BMW 316 TI, SE, and ES?

fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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chrisjb81 said:
What's the difference between BMW 316 TI, SE, and ES?
AFAIK "ti" just means it's a Compact, "ES" & "SE" are trim levels.

chrisjb81

Original Poster:

6 posts

183 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Thanks.

DocSteve

718 posts

223 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Fox- said:
DocSteve said:
I just sold my immaculate 51 plate E39 530i for 3k - such a car would be a great buy and they are out there.
Such a car is very hard to find at that price point as it's lost in a sea of 7 not so careful owner wrecks. Whoever bought yours got an absolutely brilliant deal. I presume for the money it was an SE?
It is a manual SE model with only one former owner. I sold it to a friend who was keen to get out of his diesel Mondeo! To be honest I was happy to sell it for that as I was buying a 535d Touring and the trade-in offers from the main dealers were shockingly bad.

The two cars are very different and there are aspects of the 530 that I'll miss. But guess that's another topic.....