Bikes that turn you on....
Discussion
1000TCR said:
Max Hazan is the creator. Almost everything he builds (and he really builds almost everything) is pure art. His latest achievement is the "Musket". Its engine is made of two Royal Enfield 500 cc units (Aniket Vardhan). The fat tyres are not my cup of tea though.
Some amazing bikes / designs there - never heard of the guy but he's got me drooling for one 
- But, looking at that Musket, I'm finding it hard to see how to stop the damned thing unless he has an internal brake somewhere in the 2ndry drive..???
ETA - found it... dunno if I like it as a solution though!
Edited by Farlig on Friday 13th November 10:07
Farlig said:
1000TCR said:
Max Hazan is the creator. Almost everything he builds (and he really builds almost everything) is pure art. His latest achievement is the "Musket". Its engine is made of two Royal Enfield 500 cc units (Aniket Vardhan). The fat tyres are not my cup of tea though.
Some amazing bikes / designs there - never heard of the guy but he's got me drooling for one - But, looking at that Musket, I'm finding it hard to see how to stop the damned thing unless he has an internal brake somewhere in the 2ndry drive..???
ETA - found it... dunno if I like it as a solution though!
Edited by Farlig on Friday 13th November 10:07
Whereas the Xeus W650/800 machines always work as a usable machine (eg mudguards/speedo/lights) with a certain style, always liked them before the Hipsters did.
graham22 said:
The point is these bikes are not meant to be ridden - OK they move under their own power but are pieces of art/engineering masterpieces. As a raod going machine there's so much wrong.
Whereas the Xeus W650/800 machines always work as a usable machine (eg mudguards/speedo/lights) with a certain style, always liked them before the Hipsters did.
Yup, I can see what you are saying and have to agree re some of this guy's designs - esp the fork issues mentioned further up too; but for me wtf's the point in having a bike you can't ride?? Whereas the Xeus W650/800 machines always work as a usable machine (eg mudguards/speedo/lights) with a certain style, always liked them before the Hipsters did.
I appreciate the artistic side but for me, it needs to be functional too... I guess if you look at some of his other designs he actually does function too so you pays your money etc etc
Farlig said:
Yup, I can see what you are saying and have to agree re some of this guy's designs - esp the fork issues mentioned further up too; but for me wtf's the point in having a bike you can't ride??
I appreciate the artistic side but for me, it needs to be functional too... I guess if you look at some of his other designs he actually does function too so you pays your money etc etc
I agree with you totally but I've come to accept that these are art and the fact it's based on a motorbike/form of transport is really not the point - if you get what I mean. It could be based on any machine.I appreciate the artistic side but for me, it needs to be functional too... I guess if you look at some of his other designs he actually does function too so you pays your money etc etc
bogie said:
Yeah, it was the "affordable" superbike of the time, certainly compared with the homologation specials like the RC30 ...I commuted by bike in 1990 so it was not the machine of choice at the time for me until some years later. The VFR was a sensible choice, like the ZZR600 I ended up with for a few years back then. I think the early 90's was a golden era for sports bike development, every year it seemed the game moved on....there really were not many duffers from the mainstream manufacturers
I had a good buyer's guide for a ZX7R not that long ago, in the back pages of some bike mag I bought whilst waiting for the train. It sounded like quite a nice thing to ride, describing the handling as not snappy, and unshakable once it's on the line. Baryonyx said:
bogie said:
Yeah, it was the "affordable" superbike of the time, certainly compared with the homologation specials like the RC30 ...I commuted by bike in 1990 so it was not the machine of choice at the time for me until some years later. The VFR was a sensible choice, like the ZZR600 I ended up with for a few years back then. I think the early 90's was a golden era for sports bike development, every year it seemed the game moved on....there really were not many duffers from the mainstream manufacturers
I had a good buyer's guide for a ZX7R not that long ago, in the back pages of some bike mag I bought whilst waiting for the train. It sounded like quite a nice thing to ride, describing the handling as not snappy, and unshakable once it's on the line. 
graham22 said:
Farlig said:
Yup, I can see what you are saying and have to agree re some of this guy's designs - esp the fork issues mentioned further up too; but for me wtf's the point in having a bike you can't ride??
I appreciate the artistic side but for me, it needs to be functional too... I guess if you look at some of his other designs he actually does function too so you pays your money etc etc
I agree with you totally but I've come to accept that these are art and the fact it's based on a motorbike/form of transport is really not the point - if you get what I mean. It could be based on any machine.I appreciate the artistic side but for me, it needs to be functional too... I guess if you look at some of his other designs he actually does function too so you pays your money etc etc
Form or function are relatively easy, form with function is altogether more tricky!
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