the bb trackday thread.
Discussion
bass gt3 said:
Warming tyres?? There's two options here. 1.Tyre warmers. 2. Riding at a sensible pace on the first couple of laps to warm them up if you don't have warmers. 3 laps at the start of the day isn't going to keep your tyres warm for every session 
Crap on the track? Track conditions change on a lap by lap basis. There's even a flag for it. Going around for 3 laps at the start of the day is no guarantee that the track conditions will remain the same for the rest of the day. Also, part of your responsibility or tasks as a rider is to assess the track conditions per lap and ride accordingly.
Calming the nerves?? Hardly seems to be a valid reason. If you're nervous, what are you doing there?? Nerves are a sure fire way to come a cropper. Other than novice riders, I would have expected TD riders to be competent riders.
If however, as Loon says, it's for "insurance" or Duty of Care reasons, fair enough. Is every participant obliged to ride the siting laps, regardless of whether they've ridden the track before? Just seems a bit nannying having to ride around in formation for 3 laps or maybe a sad reflection on the nature of people not wanting to take personal responsibility for their actions. Throwing yourself into the scenery because the first turn is a left not a right is hardly the TDO's responsibility..
Would you sue the Dept. of Transport or the Roads Authority because you didn't know which way a road went??
'I've never had a cold tear when using tyre warmers'..... said nobody ever Crap on the track? Track conditions change on a lap by lap basis. There's even a flag for it. Going around for 3 laps at the start of the day is no guarantee that the track conditions will remain the same for the rest of the day. Also, part of your responsibility or tasks as a rider is to assess the track conditions per lap and ride accordingly.
Calming the nerves?? Hardly seems to be a valid reason. If you're nervous, what are you doing there?? Nerves are a sure fire way to come a cropper. Other than novice riders, I would have expected TD riders to be competent riders.
If however, as Loon says, it's for "insurance" or Duty of Care reasons, fair enough. Is every participant obliged to ride the siting laps, regardless of whether they've ridden the track before? Just seems a bit nannying having to ride around in formation for 3 laps or maybe a sad reflection on the nature of people not wanting to take personal responsibility for their actions. Throwing yourself into the scenery because the first turn is a left not a right is hardly the TDO's responsibility..
Would you sue the Dept. of Transport or the Roads Authority because you didn't know which way a road went??
If you don't like the rules then don't go on the day. Pretty simple really. As for nerves I was full of the shakes at some races and it took a few corners to get the adrenalin out and focus. Personally I don't like track days because there are too many muppets who are all over the place. if I did I would prefer a few laps where I know that their kit is in one piece and they might have settled down a tad.
yonex said:
'I've never had a cold tear when using tyre warmers'..... said nobody ever
Cold tear isn't due to using tyre warmers or not, but more a function of not *keeping* heat in the tyre due to compound choice, etc. the effect of tyre warmers will only last around 1/2-1 lap as the wind cools the tyre/wheel down.Too hard and not enough heat is generated, and the outside of the tyre rips away from the carcass. Too soft and the compound breaks down (hot tear). Can also be caused by under/overworking the tyre due to tyre pressures. All of this can occur whether you use warmers or not....
Yazza54 said:
bass gt3 said:
Yazza54 said:
bass gt3 said:
sc0tt said:
moanthebairns said:
What happens if you don't like track days.
I guess I'll start sucking off blokes?
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