Michelin Pilot Road 3 Update...
Discussion
I think I will be going for a set of these once the Pilot Power 3s die.... My mileage has increased alot (which is a good thing as I'm making myself an allseasons biker again)
Has anyone had both and can report?
p.s. is the wet grip THAT good? I do remember seeing in Bike magazine, tester Bruce Dunn scraping his knee on a soaking track....
Has anyone had both and can report?
p.s. is the wet grip THAT good? I do remember seeing in Bike magazine, tester Bruce Dunn scraping his knee on a soaking track....
RemyMartin said:
I think I will be going for a set of these once the Pilot Power 3s die.... My mileage has increased alot (which is a good thing as I'm making myself an allseasons biker again)
Has anyone had both and can report?
p.s. is the wet grip THAT good? I do remember seeing in Bike magazine, tester Bruce Dunn scraping his knee on a soaking track....
Yep I've had both... Has anyone had both and can report?
p.s. is the wet grip THAT good? I do remember seeing in Bike magazine, tester Bruce Dunn scraping his knee on a soaking track....
Pilot Power 3's and Pilot Road 3's
I did 12,000 miles on the PR3's and so far 5500 miles on the PP3's...
Both have more grip than you will ever need in any ROAD riding conditions, both warm up fast and both are superb in the wet.
However I'm not a fan of the front PR3 on a sportsbike... as when pushed on a bit the tyre moves around a lot under breaking / hard cornering but whilst not a problem doesn't give you much confidence. The PR3's also need a bit more work to turn compared to the PP3's... for me the PP3's are a good balance between a sporty riding and mileage.
It will come down to how you ride and your budget for tyres. I'm quite happy to buy two sets of tyres a year given my annual mileage of 12,000 miles but people would prefer a tyre that last's longer spending less money.
Got to admit I'm tempted to try these next:
http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/products/tyres-ca...
A mate of mine reckons they are the best ST rubber he has ever used and the front profile actually looks like it will be similar turning to a PP3.
However I love the PP3's ... they give me confidence in all conditions.
Edited by Mr OCD on Wednesday 9th October 13:27
) and the differenc ein grip is noticeable.I have been running the dunlop roadsmarts on mine and my wifes commuter bikes since 2010. I have always been pleased with the useage of them.
I get around 8000 to a rear and 12000 to a front - which I am very happy with.
Still fancied changing to these PR3's this time around. I rode my wifes ER6f to work last week as Bandit is off the road for a new clutch, and noticed the tyres felt squared off. Still road legal, but I thought they should be replaced soon. Wife thinks they are fine. This thread reninded me to see when tyres were replaced.
I checked ER6f history tonight. Those roadsmarts have done - wait for it:-
Rear - 12000 miles (last tyre which went beyond road legal did 14000 miles).
Front - 26000 miles
I will try the PR3s - but struggle to see them lasting as long!
I get around 8000 to a rear and 12000 to a front - which I am very happy with.
Still fancied changing to these PR3's this time around. I rode my wifes ER6f to work last week as Bandit is off the road for a new clutch, and noticed the tyres felt squared off. Still road legal, but I thought they should be replaced soon. Wife thinks they are fine. This thread reninded me to see when tyres were replaced.
I checked ER6f history tonight. Those roadsmarts have done - wait for it:-
Rear - 12000 miles (last tyre which went beyond road legal did 14000 miles).
Front - 26000 miles
I will try the PR3s - but struggle to see them lasting as long!
When I bought the Breva 1100 I was set on getting these when I wore the Metzlers out after having them on the Triumph and being amazed by them.
A puncture in Scotland required a new rear tyre but the front still had loads of life so I got another Z6 for the rear. I have to admit they are very good but they square off very quickly, overall I have been impressed enough to try the Metzler Z8 next time over the PR3. The dual compound Z8 should address the squaring off issue and offer even more grip over the z6.
If I had one slight criticism of the PR3 it is they 'step' in between the snipes in the tread, having said this you cannot tell when riding and I'm certain this is what makes them so good in the wet.
A puncture in Scotland required a new rear tyre but the front still had loads of life so I got another Z6 for the rear. I have to admit they are very good but they square off very quickly, overall I have been impressed enough to try the Metzler Z8 next time over the PR3. The dual compound Z8 should address the squaring off issue and offer even more grip over the z6.
If I had one slight criticism of the PR3 it is they 'step' in between the snipes in the tread, having said this you cannot tell when riding and I'm certain this is what makes them so good in the wet.
Hooli said:
Fats25 said:
I checked ER6f history tonight. Those roadsmarts have done - wait for it:-
Rear - 12000 miles (last tyre which went beyond road legal did 14000 miles).
Front - 26000 miles
Rear - 12000 miles (last tyre which went beyond road legal did 14000 miles).
Front - 26000 miles
Does Mrs Fats ever use the throttle? I had Roadsmarts once & found they didn't last!
However, I don't hang about on the commute, and the Roadsmarts I have on my Bandit last very well for me as well. In fact I just checked the history for the Bandit, and I get the following:-
Front - 10,000
Rear - 8,000
Not quite as extreme as the ER6, but pretty good. Both tyres were fitted together approx 5,000 miles ago, so I will try and get to 9000 miles - meet in the middle - before swapping them both to the PR3's.
So glad I got PR3's. Far better than the Dunlop SportMax thst (I think) were on the bike when I got it.
Done 4k miles or so, and they've got tons of tread left... ought to measure it.
Cost a bit more than other tyres, but were well worth it. I might give the Power Pures a go next time round as i've done less miles than I thought I would on the bike - but I reckon these might still be on the bike when I sell it next year at this rate - hopefully.
Perfectly suited for the road IMHO... I won't be using a hyper sport tyre any time soon.
Done 4k miles or so, and they've got tons of tread left... ought to measure it.
Cost a bit more than other tyres, but were well worth it. I might give the Power Pures a go next time round as i've done less miles than I thought I would on the bike - but I reckon these might still be on the bike when I sell it next year at this rate - hopefully.
Perfectly suited for the road IMHO... I won't be using a hyper sport tyre any time soon.
Fats25 said:
Hooli said:
Fats25 said:
I checked ER6f history tonight. Those roadsmarts have done - wait for it:-
Rear - 12000 miles (last tyre which went beyond road legal did 14000 miles).
Front - 26000 miles
Rear - 12000 miles (last tyre which went beyond road legal did 14000 miles).
Front - 26000 miles
Does Mrs Fats ever use the throttle? I had Roadsmarts once & found they didn't last!
However, I don't hang about on the commute, and the Roadsmarts I have on my Bandit last very well for me as well. In fact I just checked the history for the Bandit, and I get the following:-
Front - 10,000
Rear - 8,000
Not quite as extreme as the ER6, but pretty good. Both tyres were fitted together approx 5,000 miles ago, so I will try and get to 9000 miles - meet in the middle - before swapping them both to the PR3's.
In light of the recent topic that has just appeared on the PR4's - I am behind the times, as I got the PR3's fitted to my wife's bike last week.
It got to 26,000 miles on the front, and nearly 12,000 on the rear by the time it was replaced. Being a good husband, I always run her tyres in for her, as she does not like to do this. So having done approx 100 miles on the bike in the rain and the dry, BUT admittedly being during the running in period, my first impressions are:-
Wet - not as much grip as on the Dunlop Roadsmarts (even from memory of when being run in).
Dry - plenty of grip, and felt very good
They seem to be very easy to throw the bike around, and I found myself oversteering a lot, but that may be because my tyres are a bit square on my Bandit (and certainly were on this bike), and I am not used to having a shoulder to roll off of!
It got to 26,000 miles on the front, and nearly 12,000 on the rear by the time it was replaced. Being a good husband, I always run her tyres in for her, as she does not like to do this. So having done approx 100 miles on the bike in the rain and the dry, BUT admittedly being during the running in period, my first impressions are:-
Wet - not as much grip as on the Dunlop Roadsmarts (even from memory of when being run in).
Dry - plenty of grip, and felt very good
They seem to be very easy to throw the bike around, and I found myself oversteering a lot, but that may be because my tyres are a bit square on my Bandit (and certainly were on this bike), and I am not used to having a shoulder to roll off of!
Mr OCD said:
Got to admit I'm tempted to try these next:
http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/products/tyres-ca...
I'be been running the Z8s on my commuter R1150R for one year and 10,000km. All weathers, 90% motorway slogging in top. I like them. They're squaring off a bit, but still have plenty of life in the centers, grip is great out to the edges, I've had no moments in the rain on sweeping entry/exit ramps. Only been for a few Sunday scratches, but they've been unremarkable (= good). I'd like to try the PR3s or 4s for the hell of it when the rear goes, expecting another ca. 5000km out of it. Front looks and feels like new still. I have my pressures on the highish side.http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/products/tyres-ca...
I decided to try PR3's mainly due to the Internet appreciation that seems to be around.
They were bloody pricey and I've covered approx 1200-1500 (should really check) miles on these tyres and the majority of that has been in cold/damp/wet conditions and to say they are brilliant is an understatement!
They give so much confidence so quickly even under poor road conditions. It's safe to say regardless of mileage I'll probably stick to the PR3s.
They were bloody pricey and I've covered approx 1200-1500 (should really check) miles on these tyres and the majority of that has been in cold/damp/wet conditions and to say they are brilliant is an understatement!
They give so much confidence so quickly even under poor road conditions. It's safe to say regardless of mileage I'll probably stick to the PR3s.
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