The "official" Knockhill track day thread 2014

The "official" Knockhill track day thread 2014

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moanthebairns

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Prof Prolapse said:
I think that's the most common line isn't it?

That's definitely the line Dennis Hobbs told me to use as well. I think Niall Mackenzie endorsed it as well during the briefing.

I'll be honest I still struggle with it seems counter intuitive.
Problem its blind going in, not be the first or last time ive hit that bump with the edge of my tyre

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Prof Prolapse said:
moanthebairns said:
Problem its blind going in, not be the first or last time ive hit that bump with the edge of my tyre
That was what I was saying to my new best friend Dennis.

I just couldn't get my head round the blind bit. He just said to keep getting on it.

I do think he's right. Especially if thats the line the celebrity riders like Biker's Nemesis are taking.

If that's what he says that's what I do.

Really nice guy actually.

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clen666 said:
I'm tempted to take a trip up to KH to try my hand at this track day malarkey.
What are the morning sessions on a Saturday like? I'm guessing they will be pretty busy, and from what I've read may attract the 'wrong crowd' due to the lower price?
its gonna be busy. It will be fine in novices, just don't take something you cant afford to bin.





Like the poor bugger who broke his ankle on his new mint cbr.

we were all saying it was nice, next session down he went

shame nice fella, hope it doesn't put him off.

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clen666 said:
I can't afford to bin anything! I only have one bike, my road going zx6r.

Is there a particularly high number of offs there? Is that due to track/number of riders/people pushing too hard?
Think there was something like 15 yesterday, there's always loads at knockhill. Think its the circuit.


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Kennymoto NSR250 said:
You'll notice a big difference getting your gearing sorted. I had standard gearing on the NSR first time out in July and couldn't get proper drive out of the hairpin or Clark's - one gear was too high and the other too low if you know what I mean. I used the mytracks app on my phone to work out what speed I was doing on exit of Clarks and the hairpin and stuck it in to the calculator on http://www.gearingcommander.com and it worked out what sprockets I needed to pull around 8,500rpm in second exiting the hairpin which is where it starts to make power. Made a huge difference. A 520 race chain & sprockets saps less ponies too.

You'll gain a bit through taking all the road kit off and sticking on race bodywork, apart from the weight savings you'll go quicker knowing you're not going to do a grands worth of damage to your road kit if you come off. Fibreglass is a bit more forgiving and cheap to repair.

It's getting serious now...talk of vans, getting fit and suspension specialists. You'll be after your race license next! wink
wtf happened to you in the afternoon you were gone after lunch, it was the whole day!

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v60marko said:
Interesting comments about the chicane exit. Just watched some onboard BSB video's, and sure enough they all ride that kerb to some degree. That'll teach me for attending a superbike school day and not asking any questions. I will try this line next time out and hopefully shave another second off my lap times, cheers MTB biggrin
I'm probably slower doing it than taking your route. Reason being im yet to find how much speed I can carry through and get away with it. When I bin it ill know.

However, if I was to continue with your line, then when I came to shaving time off it would be even more counter intuitive as prolapse says possibly more difficult.

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No wants to go anywhere bar knockhill

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George29 said:
moanthebairns said:
No wants to go anywhere bar knockhill
MTFU and go on your own then!
I would but I just don't have the money for it myself just now.

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I'll be going down to do the James Whitham day regardless.

at croft or Anglesey. with oulton/cadwell/donie after or before.

Others are welcome would be good to have a group for a few days away.

I'll not bother chucking out my old duvet and pillows!







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mckeann said:
Alex. You need to practice. Lots. Often. Unless your naturally talented, and even if you are, it's the only way to get better. 11 Trackdays isn't going I get you at the front of the grid. If it was, every and his dog would be on the grid.

So you can either go practice all the fking time and spend a fortune doing it, or you can lighten up, go ride your bike and have fun doing it.
I know im ste, I'm quite happy pottering about smile All I want to do is go somewhere that isn't fking knockhill.

I may even join you guys on a euro track day, just to say I've done it.


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HOW5ER said:
George29 said:
MTFU and go on your own then!
Not actually such a great idea, if you come off and end up injured how the hell you gonna get home?
ambiwlans

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HOW5ER said:
moanthebairns said:
I'll be going down to do the James Whitham day regardless.

at croft or Anglesey. with oulton/cadwell/donie after or before.

Others are welcome would be good to have a group for a few days away.

I'll not bother chucking out my old duvet and pillows!
Id be right up for a trek down south sometime, Id probably fit another bike in the back of the Vivaro if its any good to anyone.
im in, id even do one before the season ends if you fancy it

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HOW5ER said:
moanthebairns said:
im in, id even do one before the season ends if you fancy it
I doubt ill be able to ride a bike at all till next year the way my ankle is mate, Got physio tomorrow but from what I've been told id have been better off breaking my ankle frown Fingers crossed though I'm young and fit enough to heal up a bit quicker.
ouch sounds a bad one

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Thursday 11th September 2014
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Right, im proposing the 16th so that's next Tuesday.

Croft, full day, sessions £125

van hire is £73

me and McKeann used £80 on fuel going there and back

so in total its gonna cost £205 for the day

leave Monday night or Tuesday first thing, back up the road Tuesday night.

Any takes???

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v60marko said:
Sorry mate I'm booked up at Knockers on Monday and after that I'm calling it a day for 2014
fair enough.

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take your wets Monday.

That said I bought a set and out of the 8 trackdays I done this year it only rained once.

I never had my wets with me that day for a morning session so I haven't used them at all.

This summer has been great during the week.

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v60marko said:
moanthebairns said:


take your wets Monday.

That said I bought a set and out of the 8 trackdays I done this year it only rained once.

I never had my wets with me that day for a morning session so I haven't used them at all.

This summer has been great during the week.
I don't have wets frown It's all looking a bit grim, girl at Knockhill said I've until 12:00 to cancel. If I do I'm going to look on no limits to see whats available. Shame it looks bad at Croft on Tuesday too or I'd be well game
the novice inters spaces have went at croft, texted BN last night and he said its fully booked.

so that's out the window. there is no where to get a track day bar knockhill

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George29 said:
moanthebairns said:
the novice inters spaces have went at croft, texted BN last night and he said its fully booked.

so that's out the window. there is no where to get a track day bar knockhill
Cadwell next Monday!

Just book into the fast group at Croft. If you're not fast enough they will just move you down.
fully booked at cadwell.

I'd be too embarrassed to book onto fast.

Think marks ruling it out as he only rides in the dry that's why he bought slicks, which is fair enough.

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there is no way in gods green earth I would be driving all the way to brands for a track day