MotoGP Misano

[LoonR1]

egor110 said:

mckeann said:

egor110 said:

It shifts the weight back under hard braking doesn't it?

No, absolutely not

Really?

Surely it works the same as putting your hand out a car windown.

You dangle your leg , it drags you back over the seat and adds weight to the back wheel?

The last thing you want is a load of weight being taken off the front when braking hard.

[StuB]

Qualifying now, the sandbagging ends here.

[egor110]

Good work by rossi getting the all important front row start.

A dry track tomorrow and my moneys on Lorenzo running away with it.

[StuB]

Yamaha benefit in MotoGP tomorrow. Wonder if MM will be 'all in'?

Still expect to see Ducati make a very strong showing.

Don't think Kent will be worried about anything.

[mckeann]

egor110 said:

mckeann said:

egor110 said:

It shifts the weight back under hard braking doesn't it?

No, absolutely not

Really?

Surely it works the same as putting your hand out a car windown.

You dangle your leg , it drags you back over the seat and adds weight to the back wheel?

ahh, you're talking about the dangle? We were talking about the wings on the fairing. I think the only reason the dangle was mentioned was in the does it/doesnt it actually help or just in the riders head

[mckeann]

LoonR1 said:

egor110 said:

mckeann said:

egor110 said:

It shifts the weight back under hard braking doesn't it?

No, absolutely not

Really?

Surely it works the same as putting your hand out a car windown.

You dangle your leg , it drags you back over the seat and adds weight to the back wheel?

The last thing you want is a load of weight being taken off the front when braking hard.

i think the moto gp level riders would actually like to get a bit of weight lower down and further back when they're braking, just to keep the back end down. Thats why the fuel tanks are all under the seat instead of in the normal position

[LoonR1]

mckeann said:

LoonR1 said:

egor110 said:

mckeann said:

egor110 said:

It shifts the weight back under hard braking doesn't it?

No, absolutely not

Really?

Surely it works the same as putting your hand out a car windown.

You dangle your leg , it drags you back over the seat and adds weight to the back wheel?

The last thing you want is a load of weight being taken off the front when braking hard.

i think the moto gp level riders would actually like to get a bit of weight lower down and further back when they're braking, just to keep the back end down. Thats why the fuel tanks are all under the seat instead of in the normal position

A bit yep, a lot no.

Can't see how the wings would help that though, they're for downforce aren't they, not lift.

[mckeann]

Yeh, wings are to keep front end down at speed. Doctors dangle is for putting weight rearwards on braking. We ended up on two seperate topics

[R1gtr]

Anyone know where Baz is going? Surely he deserves a better bike next year

[macdeb]

Only just seen the interview between Emmet and Rossi from last year I think. Where Emmet asked Rossi to describe Marquez in three words and keep it clean and Rossi says, 'small, fkin', bd'. EPIC. just gonna watch recording now of qualifying.

[LoonR1]

R1gtr said:

Anyone know where Baz is going? Surely he deserves a better bike next year

It won't be back to Kawasaki after what he did last year in WSB

[egor110]

LoonR1 said:

R1gtr said:

Anyone know where Baz is going? Surely he deserves a better bike next year

It won't be back to Kawasaki after what he did last year in WSB

Crash into sykes, apologise then have to put up with sykes throwing his toys out of the pram the rest of the year?

[LoonR1]

egor110 said:

Crash into sykes, apologise then have to put up with sykes throwing his toys out of the pram the rest of the year?

Refuse to pull over and let his teammate past when under team orders to do so in the last couple of rounds of the season. Arguably that cost Kawasaki the championship last year.

[Johno]

mckeann said:

Yeh, wings are to keep front end down at speed. Doctors dangle is for putting weight rearwards on braking. We ended up on two seperate topics

The best idea I heard yesterday was that the wings help to reduce front wheel lift on exit of the corners, thereby allowing the anti wheelie to be dialect back a little which simply means less power is cut, better corner exit acceleration. Plausible .... At speed in any other part of a lap I do not see much benefit ....

[LoonR1]

Johno said:

The best idea I heard yesterday was that the wings help to reduce front wheel lift on exit of the corners, thereby allowing the anti wheelie to be dialect back a little which simply means less power is cut, better corner exit acceleration. Plausible .... At speed in any other part of a lap I do not see much benefit ....

That's the official line, but is the bike going fast enough out of the corners to make the wings work?

[LoonR1]

woowahwoo said:

They sound a bit like (some) canards on aircraft.

Wassat then?

[hebegb]

woowahwoo said:

LoonR1 said:

woowahwoo said:

They sound a bit like (some) canards on aircraft.

Wassat then?

...any machine capable of flying by means of buoyancy or aerodynamic forces, such as a glider, helicopter, or aeroplane

Crikey - you are being told what an aeroplane is ......
Awesome thread development , not as exciting as I was hoping for , I thought Ducks may have been involved , but alas, no, just aeronautical techno jargon ..... leave you with it , this two-wheeled internal combustion engined chariot will not ride itself ( yet) - toddle-pip, chocks away .......

[FourWheelDrift]

LoonR1 said:

woowahwoo said:

They sound a bit like (some) canards on aircraft.

Wassat then?

Canard? It's the difficulty in riding a MotoGP bike at the limit.

[FourWheelDrift]

Lorenzo shaking his head at everyone because they are not allowing him to do a practice start on his own. Bless.

[egor110]

FourWheelDrift said:

Lorenzo shaking his head at everyone because they are not allowing him to do a practice start on his own. Bless.

Part of me quite likes the fact that Lorenzo doesn't try and be media friendly, he's just a grumpy sod.

Plus when he lies like with the helmet steaming up he's grinning away like he knows it's complete bullst.